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Brock_Meyer
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CosmicAlfonzo
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Photography is an art form

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 5/3/2011 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Brock_Meyer

Con

Hello, debaters.

The resolution is as follows: "Photography is an art form."

By "photography," I mean "the process of producing images of objects on photosensitive surfaces," and by "art form," I mean "the process or product of deliberately arranging elements in a way to affect the senses or emotions." As is customary in any philosophical debate, the definitions of these terms are not fixed. They are open to discussion and change.

Pro's position must prove that photography fulfills the necessary and sufficient conditions of something being a form of art. Con's position must prove that photography does not meet these requirements and is something else besides art.

For the sake of fairness, I would prefer the Contender merely accept the debate and that we begin making arguments in Round Two. Let's have a civil and productive argument.
CosmicAlfonzo

Pro

I would like to thank con for starting this debate. I do believe that photography is an art form, and am interested in hearing the case against this.

That said, since it was said that the "definitions are open to discussion and change", I would prefer to use dictionary definitions. I hope this doesn't turn into an argument over semantics. To be thorough, I'll lay down a few definitions I believe are relevant.

All definitions pulled from " http://www.merriam-webster.com... "

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Photography (noun)

1: The art or process of producing images by the action of radiant energy and especially light on a sensitive surface (as film or a CCD chip)

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Art form (noun)

1: a) form or medium of expression recognized as fine art

2: a) an unconventional form or medium in which impulses regarded as artistic may be expressed
b) an undertaking or activity enhanced by a high level of skill or refinement

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Fine Art (noun)

2: an activity requiring a fine skill

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Fine (adj)

4: Superior in kind, quality, or appearance : excellent

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Art (noun)

1: Skill acquired by experience, study, or observation

2: a branch of learning

3: an occupation requiring knowledge or skill

4: a) the conscious use of skill and creative imagination especially in the production of aesthetic arts
Debate Round No. 1
Brock_Meyer

Con

Brock_Meyer forfeited this round.
CosmicAlfonzo

Pro

That isn't a very convincing argument.
Debate Round No. 2
Brock_Meyer

Con

Brock_Meyer forfeited this round.
CosmicAlfonzo

Pro

Big trees catch the wind.
Debate Round No. 3
Brock_Meyer

Con

Brock_Meyer forfeited this round.
CosmicAlfonzo

Pro

I collect turtles.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by Crede 5 years ago
Crede
Turtle collection huh, I see your a man of great taste.
Posted by Cliff.Stamp 5 years ago
Cliff.Stamp
Cosmic, would you be interested in debating this?
Posted by Cliff.Stamp 5 years ago
Cliff.Stamp
That was a pretty strong opening Cosmic, you not only won the debate you causing your opponent to close his account in fear, even the Kenyon doesn't bring the banhammer with that much power.
Posted by Cliff.Stamp 5 years ago
Cliff.Stamp
Lame, I was really interested in this topic.
Posted by CosmicAlfonzo 5 years ago
CosmicAlfonzo
Brock_Meyer closed his account.

lame
Posted by Cliff.Stamp 5 years ago
Cliff.Stamp
The way Con has defined lead me to believe they were intending a semantic debate, i.e., the process of making the picture was not art, the art was in the composition.That is trivial though. A stronger argument would be to argue for example that photography was akin to photocopying or better yet it is appreciation of art, not art itself. I would take the latter off the top of my head and defend that.
Posted by Cliff.Stamp 5 years ago
Cliff.Stamp
The way Con has defined lead me to believe they were intending a semantic debate, i.e., the process of making the picture was not art, the art was in the composition.That is trivial though. A stronger argument would be to argue for example that photography was akin to photocopying or better yet it is appreciation of art, not art itself. I would take the latter off the top of my head and defend that.
Posted by CosmicAlfonzo 5 years ago
CosmicAlfonzo
The thing is, photography is already recognized as a fine art.

A lot of work can go into photography.

The only argument I can really think of is the same kind of argument one might use to say that John Cage isn't a composer.
Posted by Cliff.Stamp 5 years ago
Cliff.Stamp
"Art form (noun)

1: a) form or medium of expression recognized as fine art"

I always wonder who writes those types of definitions.

Will be interesting to see the opening from Con as to why it is not art.
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