The Instigator
Pluto2493
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The Contender
revleader5
Pro (for)
Losing
6 Points

Pluto2493's plan for voting reform on debate.org is a good plan.

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 5/25/2008 Category: Technology
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 836 times Debate No: 4192
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Pluto2493

Con

I do not think Pluto2493's plan is good. Thus I negate. I will let PRO have the first argument on this issue. Thank you.
revleader5

Pro

Pluto2493's plan for reform is genius. Support his great ideas. A vote for me is a vote for Pluto2493 and his confidence!
Debate Round No. 1
Pluto2493

Con

As far as I know, Pluto2493's plan is fourfold:

1. For debate.org to make him win every debate.
2. For debate.org to overturn every loss already.
3. For debate.org to make each debate (even the ones he's not in) a win for himself.
4. For debate.org to give exactly 237 losses for every other member.

This would be a bad plan. First, there won't even be a shot for someone to win in a debate against him. Thus, no one will debate him, but he will still get wins. He won't have fun or learn anything, nor can anyone else learn from him.

Second, it is unfair that everyone recieve 237 losses on their record. Everyone will have a winning percentage of less than 10%, and Win/Loss records will be pointless. People also aren't attracted to the color red, and all win/loss records would be red.

Third, it doesn't promote democracy. The idea of democracy on this site, where everyone votes, will be lost.

Fourth, it will lead to hostility. People will be mad at Pluto because he would be so much more elite than the others. Also, people would get mad at the people that made debate.org for putting such an unfair plan in place. It would not promote the friendliness that this site has right now.

I now eagarly await my opponent's response.
revleader5

Pro

Pluto's plan is amazing. A vote for me is a vote for Pluto's plan. A vote for Pluto is a vote for not Pluto.
Debate Round No. 2
Pluto2493

Con

Well, my opponent does not respond to any of my arguments, so please extend them into this round.

He also does not make any arguments, he just says Pluto's plan is great. I already responded as to why it isn't great. Thus, I have built up my offense as well as effectivly defended myself.

At this point, I see nothing but a CON vote.
revleader5

Pro

Pluto2493's plan is still genius because it would motivate people to finally get off of their computers and go enjoy life. He would stop our couch-potato ways and make us live life to the fullest.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by revleader5 8 years ago
revleader5
I usually get my best ideas at the end. Sorry. Feel free to argue against my round 3 argument in comments though...

Also, you made that Pluto obviously set me up so that he could win with his "plan", no? And don't say I shouldn't of debated without seeing a plan because then you could also say he shouldn't have debated hecause he knew I could give my best argument in round 3 when he can't argue against it.
Posted by Derek.Gunn 8 years ago
Derek.Gunn
It's like the Mad Hatter's tea party in here!
Posted by Logical-Master 8 years ago
Logical-Master
Okay, I'm gonna explain my reasoning here:

Don't get me wrong. Bringing up great arguments should be encouraged, but did you really need to say that in your FINAL round, reveleader5? Why not bring this up in round 2 so that it could actually be debated on? I'm not attacking the notion of coming up with great ideas. Rather, I'm simply attacking the notion that concerns refusal to actually debate.

Now if your goal is simply to exchange ideas rather than win debates, then power to you, but if you intend to actually win the debate, you'd at least better provide your opposition the chance to debate you.

Basically, a contender bringing up new arguments on his/her final round is in contempt of the debate itself.
Posted by revleader5 8 years ago
revleader5
Well Logicical, that would mean that nobody could ever bring up a good point if they are last in the final round. Obviously that is ridiculous.
Posted by Logical-Master 8 years ago
Logical-Master
PRO didn't present a legitimate argument until the final round, and since CON had no way of responding, it must be discounted. *vote CON*
Posted by DrAlexander 8 years ago
DrAlexander
An account on another site of course..
Posted by DrAlexander 8 years ago
DrAlexander
All someone has to do is make an account to further prove their claim.
wink wink*
Posted by Logical-Master 8 years ago
Logical-Master
Yes, I would like to see your plan myself as I may take this debate up before my endgame debate.

Then again, how do we know you're Pluto2493? For all we know, I could be Pluto2493
Posted by DrAlexander 8 years ago
DrAlexander
What!?
Where's your plan?
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