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Poetry Debate No.3

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Started: 10/21/2013 Category: Entertainment
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I really like these debates...

Round One - confirm acceptance
Round Two - Haiku
Round Three - Petrarchan Sonnet
Round Four - Epitaph
Round Five - A poem of your choice or of your creation

Rounds 2, 3, and 4 should be the works of published authors, with citations to their works. All your poems should be connected by some sort of theme, which should be stated in round one. My theme will be nature. My opponent's must be something different. I'm excited to do this debate. Please accept, and let's get this poetry war underway!


Basho does lead us
Rhymeless is less challenging
Few touch Shakespeare's skill

Nature inspires many
Lyrics transcend poetry
Music demands more

Alone, each are great
Music hungers for poems
The blend carries joy

Poems demand brains
Music nourishes all life
Poems?...only man
Debate Round No. 1


Con's getting a bit ahead of the debate. This round is the Haiku round; the last round was for stating the theme. Con's theme, as noted in the comments, is "Music." For this round, then, Con just needs to type one of those Haikus in. Thanks again for accepting!

For my Haiku, I will choose a classic. I will do "Old Pond" by Basho. Since his was written in Japanese, the syllable count is slightly off in the translated version.

old pond...
a frog leaps in
waters sound

If you want a strictly correct syllable count, the poem can be tweaked and written as:

at the age-old pond
a frog leaps into the water
a deep resonance



I answered in form
I love haiku as a form
So, I chose it then

1. by Camelia Camelia
Sunset's Concerto

Soft wind music plays
0n last harp strings of sun rays
Clouds waltz in the sky

( nature-ish but full of music )

2. Laurie Ginn
Summer Ensemble

Breezes orchestrate

Windchimes melodius sounds

Music fills the air

3. by daver austin


i am so helpless
beauty i cannot describe
drives to very soul

haunted day and night
music so transfiguring
spreads a love all round

conscious illumined
in arms of brightest angels
i will fear no more

On hearing/seeing Wauldtraut Meier sing Isolde"s Liebestod (love-death) from Tristan und Isolde

( berry, berry gooooood)
Debate Round No. 2


For Round "Petrarchan Sonnet," I offer "Spring" by Gerard Manley Hopkins.

Nothing is so beautiful as Spring--
When weeds, in wheels, shoot long and lovely and lush;
Thrush's eggs look little low heavens, and thrush
Through the echoing timber does so rinse and wring
The ear, it strikes like lightnings to hear him sing;
The glassy peartree leaves and blooms, they brush
The descending blue; that blue is all in a rush
With richness; the racing lambs too have fair their fling.

What is all this juice and all this joy?
A strain of the earth's sweet being in the beginning
In Eden garden. --Have, get, before it cloy,
Before it cloud, Christ, lord, and sour with sinning,
Innocent mind and Mayday in girl and boy,
Most, O maid's child, thy choice and worthy the winning.



( Happy to not take the easy, Shakespeare, path is: me. )


Lying in bed with these buds in my ears,
I go from dead silent, to alive and fantastic
Feeling vibrations that beat out the tears
In a void of music, I feel captured by magic
This magic is real, and that is no lie
When I play my guitar with that clean open sound
It paints me a picture of a deep purple sky
And bring back my memories, to the past I am bound
But the magic doesn"t always work the same way
I see purple skies, but you"ll see something else
So these magical emotions, all I can say
Is they are not in the music, they are in myself
So as my mind is an endless page of white
I am painting a picture on this dead silent night
Debate Round No. 3


It seems that, sadly, my opponent has offered a Shakespearean Sonnet, when last round was only for Petrarchan Sonnets. I remind Con that there are specific requirements per round.

For this round, round Epitaphs, I will offer "Epitaph" by William Carlos Williams. Please enjoy.

An old willow with hollow branches
slowly swayed his few high gright tendrils
and sang:

Love is a young green willow
shimmering at the bare wood's edge.



( That was written by "Thirst for Peace", not Shakey.
Unless I wrote my own, the choices for music were few and I liked finding something more modern.)

Music, when soft voices die, vibrates in the memory. (Shelley)

Blaze of lights and music calling,
Music weeping, rising, falling, Like a rare and precious diamond, His brilliance still lives on.

"She made beautiful music."
Debate Round No. 4


A Shakespearean Sonnet is a style of poetry, [1] invented by Shakespeare, but used by others. It has an ABAB CDCD EE rhyme scheme, which fits your early poem. A Petrarchan Sonnet, which was required, typically follows an ABBA CDDC EFGEFG [1] scheme. Therefore, Con's earlier poem was indeed in violation of the rules, regardless of the author.

For this round, I will offer a poem of my choice, "Jabberwocky," by Louis Carroll. This is my favorite poem of all time, and I sincerely hope you find it amusing and enjoyable.

"Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!"

He took his vorpal sword in hand;
Long time the manxome foe he sought"
So rested he by the Tumtum tree
And stood awhile in thought.

And, as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!

One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.

"And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!"
He chortled in his joy.

"Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

Citation 1:
Citation 2:
Citation 3:


1 - I hope you enjoyed my selections most!
2 - Con's Round 3 Sonnet is invalid
3 - Con has provided no citations, which were also required

Thanks to Con for a good debate! VOTE PRO!


I included the authors' names as citations.

I will be happy to have not put up the
proper form of sonnet because
I enjoyed the modern sonnet about music.
Modern sonnets are rare.
So, I am happy to have broken that rule ONLY
for the joy of sharing modern works.

Cruisin' post nine, using some fine tune thrills

Passed "MOT'L" gassed and caught hell - added to the bills

Odious motorists, fog and food mists, shotgun chills

Roll by frustration and finery, glimpse flourish and failure
All money mills

Day Cruisin', view perusin' with tasteful trills

Bothers roll off, fuel and slide off, filled with skills

Clustered playing. Radialed roadships, sashaying.
Cerebrum fills

( by: me)
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by NorthDebater 3 years ago
I sang music when soft voices die in choir one year, beautiful piece.
Posted by dawndawndawndawn 3 years ago
I chose music as a theme because very little, good, haiku
is written about the opposite of Nature - cities

Thank you!
Posted by LtCmdrData 3 years ago
Alright--just state your theme and we can get started. Thanks for accepting--it should be fun.
Posted by LtCmdrData 3 years ago
Yes, of course.
Posted by dawndawndawndawn 3 years ago
May I accept this, please?
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Reasons for voting decision: Con violated a rule. Conduct Pro. I liked the poems equally, but Con stuck to her theme better. Jabberwocky had little to do w/ Pro's theme of "Nature;" args go Con. Con had some s/g issues, so those points go Pro. Sources to Pro for giving links. Interesting debate!