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Police are there to serve and protect

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Started: 5/12/2014 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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nonprophet

Con


First round is for acceptance only.



youtheotube

Pro

I'll accept this debate.
Debate Round No. 1
nonprophet

Con

I want to thank my opponent for accepting this debate. It is a privilege to have his/her time and effort in this.

First of all, I'd like to point out that the police get paid to do what they do. That means they need to generate money to justify their salaries. Police are given a certain quota for tickets they give out. This will give them incentive to pull as many cars over as they can, no matter if they deserve it or not. It's not uncommon for a police officer to pull someone over and only then, try to figure out a violation to give a ticket for.
This is unconstitutional and violates both the civilian's rights and the oath the officer took to uphold and protect the Constitution. Instead of "serve and protect". it's "harass and bully".
An officer is supposed to have "reasonable cause" to stop someone.

Road checkpoints also violate a person's rights.

Too often then not, police try to stop themselves from being filmed or videotaped by civilians. This again, violates the rights of civilians the police are hired to serve and protect. People are told to stop filming, to stand far away from the police activity they are filming and some even have their cameras taken away "as evidence". One's property can not be taken away legally without due process.

The police have the attitude that they deserve respect, which to most of them, means you can't talk back or question their authority. Police are supposed to be public servants, yet get annoyed or angry if you try to exercise your rights. The police often retaliate with threats of arrest, and other unwarranted threats. Again, this is bully tactics and harassment, not serving and protecting. I can cut and paste hundreds of youtube videos of police doing this, but a simple search on youtube will let you see them all without a problem.

Sure, it may try to be argued that there are a few "bad apples" that make the rest look bad. The problem is the police don't police themselves. They stick together and even lie in court for each other rather than admit they were wrong.

The police have many tricks and tactics to violate a person's rights. They outright lie to get you to confess. They have many vague laws they can accuse anyone of, including "disorderly conduct" that can mean anything. Lately they even yell out "stop resisting" when making an arrest on camera, even though the person being arrested is clearly not resisting at all. These tricks and tactics again do nothing to serve and protect.

Another thing I'd like to point out is high speed car chases that put innocent civilians into harm's way of injury or death. Most of these car chases are not necessary, since they have helicopters and other means to track a suspected criminal. They can set up road blocks or use other methods besides a high speed chase that is much safer to the public.
Car chases are not serving and protecting, they are actually risking human life....and are still very routine.

I can go on and on and provide thousands of newspaper articles that prove what I'm saying. The unwarranted use of firearms is another issue . From Kent State to modern times where unarmed civilians are gunned down in cold blood by police.

There are also two reported incidences where police arrested fire fighters at the scene of an emergency, because they didn't feel like they got the respect they deserve. Arresting the people who are there to help in an emergency is not serving or protecting.

Now, has it ever happened that a police officer "served" by helping an old lady across the street or catching an actually thief? Maybe. But that's not the primary reason they got hired. They are there to generate money with tickets and false arrests that cost money in court.



youtheotube

Pro

youtheotube forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
nonprophet

Con

My opponent said "I'll accept this debate."

So far, he/she is not doing a very good job of it.
youtheotube

Pro

youtheotube forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by nonprophet 3 years ago
nonprophet
Warning: If you accept a debate and just forfeit every round, you will be blocked from further debates with me. I didn't come here to debate by myself.
Posted by Romanii 3 years ago
Romanii
Good job. At least you accepted ONE mistake from that whole ordeal...
Posted by ArcTImes 3 years ago
ArcTImes
"I feel it is an abuse of a high ELO ranking to vote on the request of a cheater who is looking for a free win."

LOL!
Posted by nonprophet 3 years ago
nonprophet
I have been setting up debates with a maximum elo limit so that voting would be impossible. I came here to debate for the exchange of ideas. I don't enjoy the DDO voting system and enjoy DDO better without the votes.

I will please ask you kindly not to vote on any of my debates if you have a high ELO rank and it could be used to override my desire to set up debates without votes.

There are a few cheaters here who beg the two users with high ELO rankings to vote on my debates and destroy my intent to have debates without voting.

Most of the users who debate with me are like-minded about the voting process and enjoy debates for the sake of a debate.

If you would be so kind, please ignore the cheaters that beg you to vote on my debates. I feel it is an abuse of a high ELO ranking to vote on the request of a cheater who is looking for a free win.

Thank you for your understanding.
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