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Pornogrophy is damaging to society

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Started: 6/2/2016 Category: Society
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one2one

Pro

Pornography is a problem few want to confront, we mistakenly think it hurts no one and is just a fun way to explore our sexulaity. I will argue that pornogrphy not only hurts the one who views it, but the spouse/ future spouse of that person and the actors who perform in it.

I really hope someone will accept this debate it is a very important topic. Thanks !
missbailey8

Con

I accept this debate.

Resolution: Pornography is damaging to society

Structure:
Round 1 - Acceptance
Round 2 - Opening Statements
Round 3 - Rebuttals

Rules:
1) No hate speech/ slander
2) No kritkiks
3) No plagiarism
4) No new arguments in final round
5) Please use citations
6) No forfeiture
7) No troll arguments
8) BoP is on Pro

Terms:

Pornography - printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings. [1]

Damaging - causing or capable of causing damages [2]

Society - the body of human beings generally, associated or viewed as members of a community [3]

Thank you and good luck.

Citations
[1]https://www.google.com...
[2]http://www.dictionary.com...
[3]http://www.dictionary.com...
Debate Round No. 1
one2one

Pro

Awesome, thanks for excepting.

Damaging to User

Porn use is first and foremost damaging to those who view and use it. I will first point out the effect porn use has on the brain of the user.

Each one of our brains has a reward pathway that helps us connect to people and enjoy pleasure from life. The brain releases chemicals called dopamine to give us a sense of pleasure. This happens when we get complimented or smell our favourite food or when we"re with someone we love. Our brains also create dopamine when the body is exposed to drugs like cocaine and opioids, oh and also porn. Users of these products have a similar relationship with their choice of "drug", that is to say they overflow their brains with these chemicals artificially and a new pattern begins to form.
Fightthenewdrug.org in their article "Porn is like a drug" has this to say when speaking of the new way our brains are trained after viewing porn.

"Over time, the constant overload of chemicals causes other brain changes as well. Just like a junkie will eventually require more and more of a drug to get a buzz or even just feel normal, porn users can quickly build up a tolerance as their brains adapt to the high levels of dopamine that porn releases. [11] In other words, even though porn is still releasing dopamine into the brain, the user can"t feel its effects as much." (Fightthenewdrug.org)

Why is this damaging to the user? Well beside the point that users now need more and more porn to get the same stimulation we can also track behavioural differences in those who become more and more addicted to porn. The most often response to escalating porn use is to gravitate to more violent and extreme content. Once again our friends at Fightthenewdrug.org can help us understand how. In their article "Porn affects your behaviour" here is what they say.

"In a 2012 survey of 1,500 guys, 56% said their tastes in porn had become "increasingly extreme or deviant." [12] Because consistent porn users" brains quickly become accustomed to the porn they've already seen (See Porn Addiction Escalates), they typically have to constantly be moving on to more extreme forms of pornography to get aroused by it. [13] As a result, just like the rats, many porn users find themselves getting aroused by things that used to disgust them or that go against what they think is morally right. [14]

"And once they start watching extreme and dangerous sex acts, these types of porn users are being taught that those behaviors are more normal and common than they are. [15] One study found that people exposed to significant amounts of porn thought things like sex with animals and violent sex were twice as common as what those not exposed to porn thought. [16] And when people believe a behavior is normal, they're more likely to try it. [17]" Fightthenewdrug.org)

This may seem to be an extreme but the fact is it does happen and lesser effects are almost unanimously experienced by users. I will speak from personal experience when I say that porn caused me to look at women as a body to be used and not a person to be loved. I could hardly go half a day without undressing every women I saw, often even against my will. This included family members simply because porn had trained my brain to see women as sex objects. The same can be said for every friend of mine who I have talked to about porn use, but let"s move on.

Damaging to Spouse/Future Spouse

Although the vast scientific data does not exist in this area as it does in the first area, there still remains a vast amount of personal testimonies that display to this truth.

From an objective view one can ask, "How could porn possibly be good for marriage?" The answer is it cannot. As we all know, porn is fake and it does not display how sex in reality often is. A young man or women that are viewing pornography train themselves to be disappointed come marriage to a single person. In porn you can constantly switch from video to video, or picture to picture always looking for the perfect seen. Imagine being in a marriage trying to compete with porn. There you are with all your differences and problems and there is the woman on the computer that never says no to anything and looks like a goodness. It is no wonder that some men have become more attached to porn then to real sex.

Matt Fradd on his website theporneffect.com has a wealth of information regarding these intimacy problem caused by porn. Here is an excerpt from his article "Porn and Marriage: What the Experts are Saying"

"Frequent exposure to porn is associated with diminished trust in intimate partners, increased risk of developing a negative body image, especially for women, acceptance of promiscuity as a normal state of interaction, beginning to view love in a cynical manner, belief that superior sexual satisfaction is attainable without having affection for one"s partner, belief that marriage is sexually confining, and belief that raising children and having a family is an unattractive prospect"(theporneffect.com)

I encourage you to go to his site to see more.

Damaging to Actors

As one can expect the major demand for porn in today"s culture is luring many men and women into the industry, but conditions for these men and women are less than ideal. Minus the risk for STD"s aside these shoots are often filled with drugs and alcohol to get the actors numb enough to get through the shoot. Listen to ex-porn actor April (may be a fake name), this comes from an article she did for theporneffect.com called "An Open Letter From an Ex-Porn Star".

" Myth # 1 " The girls in porn enjoy making the videos:
Nothing could be farther from the truth. What people who hold to this myth fail to realize, is that these girls are acting, plain and simple. None of it is real. In all of my experience, I have yet to meet a single girl who actually enjoyed making pornography." (theporneffect.com)

Adding later in the article

"Having been in the industry, I can tell you that it is not a pleasurable experience. The sex itself is painful, and the girls are exposed to all kinds of abuses, both by the pornographers and the people on set. It is beyond degrading, and for many of us, the only way we could endure the shoots was by numbing ourselves with drugs or alcohol, telling ourselves that it will all be over in a couple of hours, and completely zoning out, sort of disconnecting ourselves from the whole experience." (theporneffect.com)

I"ll let these statements speak for themselves.

Conclusion

So in conclusion we can see clearly that porn use has negative effects or all three of users, their spouses/future spouses, as well as the actors.

Sources:
All information came from two sources. See titles articles for citation for stats and research.
1.http://fightthenewdrug.org...
2.http://theporneffect.com...
missbailey8

Con

I. The Economy
II. Health Benefits
A. Masturbation
B. Porn Reduces Stress
III. Decreases Sex Crimes

Let's get started!

I. The Economy

It's clear that the porn industry is absolutely huge. But just how big is it?

"...revenues generated from pornography are in the region of a $100 billion per year ($97 billion in 2006). 'The pornography industry' has greater revenues than 'the revenues of the top technology companies combined: Microsoft, Google, Amazon, eBay, Yahoo!, Apple, Netflix and EarthLink'. Whilst the revenues from Internet based pornography only accounts for $4.9 billion, this figure is steadily growing and it is currently estimated that 4.2 million or 12% of all websites on the internet have pornographic content." [1]

In California alone, 12,000 excess people were employed in the porn industry. [2] Oddly enough, in California, the porn industry pays over $36 million. [2] We can conclude that the taxes paid by the porn industry can benefit everyone, regardless if they view pornography or not.

Also, the industry can create more jobs. If you search 'porn industry job openings', thousands of results show up. [3] And this isn't exclusive to actors and actresses either! Production assistants, directors, and many more are needed to create the material.

II. Health Benefits

A. Masturbation

When looking at porn, many people masturbate. Regardless of whether you're watching porn or not, masturbation is a very healthy act in both men and women. In men, masturbation:

Prevents Premature Ejaculation
Prevents Prostate Cancer
Prevents Erectile Dysfunction
Improves Sperm Motility
Improves Your Timing
Reduces Nasal Congestion
Manages Depression
Improves Immunity
Boosts Your Mood
Prevents STDS and Unwanted Pregnancy [4]

In women, masturbation:

Improves Strength
Improves Sleep Quality
Improves Cervical Health
Improves General Health
Strengthens Relationships
Relieves Cramps
Helps Cure a Urinary Tract Infection
Improves Sex
Relieves Menopause Symptoms
No STDs or Pregnancy [4]

On top of that, masturbation has no negative effects, besides soreness of the skin if it's done excessively.

B. Porn Reduces Stress

In a study performed by Carnegie Mellon University, they concluded that looking at sexy pictures can reduce cortisol, a hormone that causes stress and impairs problem-solving abilities.

"Men who spent a few minutes looking at sexy photos — soft-core stuff like lingerie catalogues and Kate Upton in a bikini — the brain chemical that causes stress was reduced by half. The men also did 50 percent better on the math portion of the test than those who looked at regular, boring photos." [5]

In turn, pornography is an effective- and fun- way to relieve stress.

III. Decreases Sex Crimes

Yes, while some may claim that porn promotes sexism or increases rape and sexual assault, neither of these assertions are true at all.

"In 2007 Alan McKee, a cultural studies expert at the Queensland University of Technology in Australia, designed a questionnaire to assess sexist tendencies. He enclosed his survey in shipments of pornographic material distributed by a mail-order company and also posted it online. Responses from 1,023 pornography users indicated that the amount of pornography the subjects consumed did not predict whether they would hold negative attitudes toward women." [6]

In regards to sex crimes and rape, the rates actually decreased immensely as internet porn became readily available.

"'Rates of rapes and sexual assault in the U.S. are at their lowest levels since the 1960s,' says Christopher J. Ferguson, a professor of psychology and criminal justice at Texas A&M International University. The same goes for other countries: as access to pornography grew in once restrictive Japan, China and Denmark in the past 40 years, rape statistics plummeted. Within the U.S., the states with the least Internet access between 1980 and 2000—and therefore the least access to Internet pornography—experienced a 53 percent increase in rape incidence..." [6]

So, in turn, pornography benefits everybody, even if they don't watch porn themselves. Thank you. I look forward to my opponent's rebuttals.

Citations
[1]http://homepages.abdn.ac.uk...
[2]http://www.grabstats.com...
[3]https://www.google.com...
[4]http://www.enkivillage.com...
[5]http://dailycaller.com...
[6]http://www.scientificamerican.com...
Debate Round No. 2
one2one

Pro

Rebuttals:

The Economy
The distinction we must make here is whether something can be both good for the economy and bad for society. Yes porn is a massive industry with lucrative profits, but that doesn’t mean it follows it is good for society. For example Tabaco sales in 2010 accounted for revenues of close to $500 billion [1]. Despite this incredible boost to the global economy we have many social initiatives to inform young people and children of the dangers of smoking, for the purpose of eliminating it from society. Smoking is both tremendously helpful to the economy and also tremendously bad for society as a whole.

One could also very easily look at the money brought into this country by drug trade and black market sales and conclude that "since they are good for the economy they must be good for society". Obviously this isn’t the case, and the harm they do outweighs the economic impact. This is the case for pornography.


Health Benefits

A. Masturbation
(I’m tempted to call out a red herring here since we are talking about the problems with pornography and not masturbation. It is not uncommon for people to masturbate without the use of pornography. Also most studies that link health benefits of masturbation are of older men that haven't grown up with the extreme porn content that this generation is experiencing. I will address it anyways and let the voters decide if the argument is valid.)

When people talk of the health benefits of masturbation they fall into a false cause fallacy. Is it really the aggressively touching yourself in front of a screen (pardon the detail) that causes health benefits or is it ejaculation that causes the health benefits? You might say well masturbation causes ejaculation and you are right but it isn’t the only way.

The two natural ways people get the benefits of ejaculation are from nocturnal emissions and natural sex. In fact studies have shown that real sex does more for your health then masturbation [2].

"It appears that not all orgasms are created equally," says Tobias S. Köhler, MD, MPH, an associate professor at Southern Illinois University School of Medicine in Springfield. Study after study shows that intercourse has all sorts of benefits for men for your blood pressure, heart and prostate health, pain, and more. You'd think that masturbation would, too. But it doesn't."

With these two natural ways men and women still experience the biological benefits of ejaculation without the harm of pornography.

You also mention that masturbation has not negative effects, but since this is a debate about pornography not solely masturbation we can’t ignore the health risks of porn use.

Porn induced ED:

Porn induced erectile dysfunction is a real and growing problem as porn has become more accessible and increasingly addictive.

Here are some quotes from theporneffect.com article “Porn and Impotency: What the Experts are saying” [3]

“It’s hard to know exactly how many young men are suffering from porn-induced ED. But it’s clear that this is a new phenomenon, and it’s not rare.” – Dr. Abraham Morgentaler, Clinical Professor of Urology at the Harvard Medical School”

“A study done at Cambridge University looking at men with porn addiction found that more than half of the subjects reported “that as a result of excessive use of sexually explicit materials, they had . . . experienced diminished libido or erectile function specifically in physical relationships with women (although not in relationship to the sexually explicit material).”

“When a person is continuously strengthening the brain maps linking sexual excitement to porn, those maps enlarge and can crowd out maps linking sexual excitement to a real person or real sex.” ( Doidge, Norman. The Brain that Changes Itself. New York: Viking, 2007)

You tell me why one must cling to pornography when you get the benefits of ejaculation through natural bodily functions without the harmful effects.

B. Porn Reduces Stress

In this argument you point out what I’ve already addressed when I talked about how porn affects the brain. Imagines that arouses us and give us pleasure release dopamine into the brain which relieves stress and makes one feel good.

The problem is young men and women aren’t getting addicted to looking at “Good Housekeeping” (excuse the Step-Brothers reference) or SI swim suit editions. They are looking at thousands of imagines and movies of explicit and often hard-core porn and they are doing so for far longer than “a few minutes”

As I’ve already addressed as our brains get used to the porn we look at they need more and more of a fix to get the same arousal. The assertion that looking at sexy pictures for a few minutes is equal to what is available only a few clicks away is nonsense.

Listen to what celebrity Terry Crews says about his porn addiction that almost killed his marriage.

“Some people say, 'Hey, man ... you can't really be addicted to pornography.' But I'm gonna tell you something: If day turns into night and you are still watching, you probably have got a problem. And that was me," he said.” [4]

This is closer to the reality for most people. That is porn can take up hours of your day, not a few minutes.

Decreases Sex Crimes

Once again this argument is skirting around the problem that porn has caused in society and instead tries to link itself to an indirectly related topic. The supposed drop in sex crimes is not a result of all the sexual predators looking themselves in rooms and watching porn. It’s a result of the monumental underreporting of these sex crimes.

Huffingtonpost.com published the article “Rape Is Grossly Underreported in the U.S, Study Finds”, calling into question to supposed drop in sex crimes.

“The focal point of the study was the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) — an annual crime report conducted through household surveys by the U.S. Census Bureau for the Bureau of Justice Statistics — which counted 188,380 victims of rape and sexual assault in 2010. Another data source, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey, counted nearly 1.3 million incidents that same year. Data from the FBI, which gathers its statistics on rape or attempted rape reported as a crime by local law enforcement, counted only 85,593 in 2010.”[5]

The discrepancy of law enforcement reporting 85,593 to the CDC’s count of 1.3 million is massive. Either someone cannot count or there have been massive amounts of incidents that go unreported and only show up when a survey is done.

Think about this logically, we want to train men and women (mostly men) to view the opposite sex as object only to be used for pleasure, often in violent and divant circumstances (which is what porn does). We will do this in order to promote healthy non-violent sexual relationships. Tell me how one follows the other…

Go to any college campus and you know sexual assault and violence is a problem. We need to teach our young men to love and protect women that’s what is intrinsic to our nature*. Not train them to use and manipulate women for sex, which is what porn teaches men to do.

*- When I say protect women I don’t mean women are fragile creatures that can’t stand up for themselves. Polish philosopher St. John Paul II said it best “God has assigned as a duty to every man the dignity of every woman”

Thanks for the debate; I hope anyone who reads this learned something.

Sources:

1.http://www.worldlungfoundation.org...

2.http://www.webmd.com...

3.http://theporneffect.com...

4.http://www.cnn.com...

5.http://www.huffingtonpost.com...




missbailey8

Con

Here are my rebuttals of my opponent's arguments.

Damaging to User

In this contention, my opponent argues that pornography is like a drug and it causes addiction. Really, further research contradicts this statement. [1, 2]

"For therapists that treat porn consumption on an addiction model and for religious groups like Focus on the Family that are invested in maintaining a concept of 'porn addiction,' the research undermines the clinical language they used in their approach to the controversial medium. But conclusive evidence for 'sex addiction' and 'porn addiction' continues to prove elusive.

"Today, Prause, Steele, and their team of researchers are back with a new study, published in the journal Biological Psychology, that only reaffirms their previous findings: 'porn addiction' and 'sex addiction,' as we understand them, may not be real."

Damaging to Spouse/Future Spouse

In this argument, my opponent says that frequent exposure to pornography is associated with "diminished trust in intimate partners, increased risk of developing a negative body image, especially for women, acceptance of promiscuity as a normal state of interaction, beginning to view love in a cynical manner, belief that superior sexual satisfaction is attainable without having affection for one"s partner, belief that marriage is sexually confining, and belief that raising children and having a family is an unattractive prospect".

I'd like to point out a problem with the source though; it's quite biased. In fact, that same source says that fasting and prayer are the best ways to "battle against porn". [4] The information could easily be sacked to fit the religious bias. In the five step battle plan this website suggests, it heavily references and points to religion for "proof".

"Regardless of where you have been or what you have done, be at peace. The same God who forgave Moses the murderer, Rahab the prostitute, David the adulterer, and Peter the denier will forgive you also. All you have to do is seek that forgiveness with a contrite heart. The only sin God won’t forgive is the one you will not ask forgiveness for." [5]

To further disprove this contention, research has found that porn. can help a marriage.

"A new study from Canada's Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy even suggests that porn can positively impact intimacy in a marriage. It's probably not a secret that partners who hide things from each other can experience more stress, anger, and frustration than those who don't. According to the research, women who report that their partner is honest with them about their intake of pornography tend to experience less distress, and be more satisfied with their marriages overall. Before we get too excited, this doesn't mean that if one partner is locked away in an office furiously um … enjoying some porn, that they can claim to be doing it in the name of marital bliss. What it does mean is that talking openly with your spouse about whether you enjoy porn, and what kind(s) you like can be the first step to the kind of openness and honesty that foster marital intimacy.

"Does that mean porn should be considered good for couples? Not necessarily. The key to decreasing stress and increasing intimacy is more likely to be found in open and honest discussion than in the porn itself. Still, it shouldn't be denied that many couples can and do use pornographic materials to stimulate foreplay, encourage role playing, or invite new activities into their established sexual routines." [6]

Damaging to Actors

In this argument, my opponent talks about the struggles that one particular porn star went through in her experience. I do mostly agree with this argument, but I must add something. If they're going to become involved in the porn industry, they should be aware of the risks before joining such industry. Yes, this doesn't excuse the abuse that can go on behind the scenes, but here's a quick example to get my point across.

Say that you want to join the Army. You choose this career path and are willing to go through with the risks. For instance, PTSD and other mental illnesses are quite common when you fight in the field, [7] As well as sexual abuse or rape. [8] You may even get seriously injured or you may die while serving in the military. Sure, the mere possibility of this happening doesn't excuse it, but if you were to join the Army, you should be aware that there is a chance it could happen.

I'd say the same for porn stars. There's a chance of STDs, embarrassment, etc., but they should be aware of these harms before they join the industry. If they're willing to accept this, then they should be allowed to join the porn industry if they wish. It may not be what you want for them, but they have the right to their own body and they should be allowed to conduct themselves however they please, so long as it isn't directly harming others.

Thank you for this debate. So long and goodnight!

Citations
[1]https://www.psychologytoday.com...
[2]http://www.huffingtonpost.com...
[3]http://www.thedailybeast.com...
[4]http://theporneffect.com...
[5]http://theporneffect.com...
[6]http://www.alternet.org...
[7]https://www.nami.org...
[8]http://www.pbs.org...
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Omniscient_Debater 1 year ago
Omniscient_Debater
No votes. Man that's dissapointing.
Posted by one2one 1 year ago
one2one
Id just like to point out that in my opponent's last round they stated one of my sources is bias. There is no question this is a religiously motivated site. I would like to know how this discredits the research of a separate group of people. The site I used quoted from an independent research project, to discredit it you must discredit the ones doing the research. Thanks
Posted by one2one 1 year ago
one2one
All side effects that have been medically linked to porn use. Sorry to hear that.
Posted by Omniscient_Debater 1 year ago
Omniscient_Debater
And headaches and shrunk my genitalia.
Posted by Omniscient_Debater 1 year ago
Omniscient_Debater
Masturbation gave me erectile dysfunction.
Posted by Omniscient_Debater 1 year ago
Omniscient_Debater
thx
Posted by one2one 1 year ago
one2one
I know from experience it can be very hard, but 100% worth it. Good luck
Posted by Omniscient_Debater 1 year ago
Omniscient_Debater
Don't worry I am unbiased lol. This does encourage me to stop though.
Posted by one2one 1 year ago
one2one
This is not a religious vs secular problem, this is a health problem.
Posted by missbailey8 1 year ago
missbailey8
@Omniscient_Debater

Well, that's certainly an interesting perspective...
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