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Whistle
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SupaDudz
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Praying for Victory in Sports is Blasphemy

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Started: 12/11/2017 Category: Religion
Updated: 7 months ago Status: Debating Period
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Whistle

Pro

Seeking divine intervention to provide victory for a team competing in little league or the world cup is peculiar form of blasphemy. In doing so one insults the very nature of a higher power.

That's it.
SupaDudz

Con

COLOSSIANS 3:17, "AND WHATEVER YOU DO, WHETHER IN WORD OR DEED, DO IT ALL IN THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS, GIVING THANKS TO GOD THE FATHER THROUGH HIM."

In a religious battle, the Bible is the most accurate source for a debate.

You are seeking thanks to the lord when you are praying to him. You are seeking his salvation and prayer that your games goes well. There's nothing wrong with this.

If a player gets injured on the field and you say prayer, you are going to call that blasphemy? No because you are giving thoughts and prayers. Just like when someone dies or is shaken by an event in their life. Saying it's blasphemy is offensive to some people.

But if you are talking about victory, let's talk about Psalm 20

May the Lord answer you when you are in trouble!
May the God of Jacob protect you!
2 May he send you help from his Temple
and give you aid from Mount Zion.
3 May he accept all your offerings
and be pleased with all your sacrifices.
4 May he give you what you desire
and make all your plans succeed.
5 Then we will shout for joy over your victory
and celebrate your triumph by praising our God.
May the Lord answer all your requests.
6 Now I know that the Lord gives victory to his chosen king;
he answers him from his holy heaven
and by his power gives him great victories.
7 Some trust in their war chariots
and others in their horses,
but we trust in the power of the Lord our God.
8 Such people will stumble and fall,
but we will rise and stand firm.
9 Give victory to the king, O Lord;
answer[b] us when we call.

Your asking the lord to grant you a victory. You can not call this blasphemy if the Psalms say so
Debate Round No. 1
Whistle

Pro

Thanks you to my worthy opponent for exploring this issue and searching for truth. I continue to believe that my statement is correct despite the arguments presented so far.

First, the bible of Christianity, of which there are many, is not the definitive authority on blasphemy. Blasphemy is a concept that extends across spiritual traditions. Asking Divinity to ensure the game goes they way you want is belittling to all.

From the sources cited, the theme seems to be having God in your heart and maintaining an ongoing dialogue. Having God in your heart wouldn't prevent one from attending a softball game, or rooting for one particular team over the other. It doesn't prevent one from asking that the players do their best and are not injured. But trivializing the almighty in the interest of something that is meant to bring people together is so outrageous it is offensive.

Consider the difference between praying that you are able to find the love of your life, versus praying that So-and-So finds you the love of their life.

The expectation that those with power use that power justly is ingrained in our concepts of heroism. Where motivations are selfish or in other ways impure the achievement is tainted. Asking a super hero to help you gain would be regarded and received poorly. The higher the power the more insulting such a request is,; asking an all powerful being to abuse their power is the most insulting. The one who asks that of an all powerful being is worse than somebody who doesn't believe in an all powerful being in the first place. It is spiritual equivalence of cognitive dissonance.
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Posted by SupaDudz 7 months ago
SupaDudz
I didn't recognize the limit. crap. i'll be happy to redo this if you send me a personal and extended time limit
Posted by Edril 7 months ago
Edril
More importantly, wouldn't using divine providence to win a game not only be cheating, but admitting that your team is the lesser of the two?
Posted by missmedic 7 months ago
missmedic
A lot of horrible things in this world get done for a higher power. And your worried about hurting god's feelings?
Posted by canis 7 months ago
canis
" In doing so one insults the very nature of a higher power."..You mean darwinism ?
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