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Being_Myself
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Spem_Redudit
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Predict Who Would Be Better Being President In The U.S.A: Hillary R. Clinton or Donald J Trump?

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 9/27/2016 Category: Politics
Updated: 4 months ago Status: Debating Period
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Being_Myself

Pro

Go Ahead Say Whatever You Want.....................................
Spem_Redudit

Con

First let me state that I am 100% for Donald Trump and I lean toward Him.

Allow me to say something about her health...over pneumonia in 3 days, at her age you would be lucky to get over it in a month or even that. She has seizures a lot (I don't think think that was her-body double-or she was heavily drugged). What would voters think if she had a seizure during her inauguration(if she was elected).

Second, paying people to come to her campaigns-no supporters- Compared to Trump supporters who are packed into the building and hundreds still waiting to come in.

Third,The polls are showing trump is ahead as I am writing this.

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Here, then, are at least 10 reasons Trump would make a stellar president.

1.Trump believes in American exceptionalism.
2.Trump is tough, unafraid to flex America"s muscles, and has the backbone America needs to take on the evil growing around the world.
3.Trump is an experienced and tough deal maker.
4.Trump is not politically correct; he"s not afraid to say what he believes and has ignited an honest debate.
5.Trump demands high performance and will fire anyone that doesn"t meet his high standards.
6.Trump is committed to education.
7.Trump "built that business" and many more and will run America like a business.
8.Trump will not balance his job as President with golf and other social events.
9.Trump"s loyalty will be only to America and Americans"not any political party, special interest group or foreign entity.
10.Trump will support American laws, the Constitution, and the nation"s borders.
Trump gets it.

Trumps understands the level of concern American"s have with the current direction of the country. America doesn"t just want change. American wants Oblimination " the complete reversal of President Obama"s failed policies.
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Posted by ILikePie5 4 months ago
ILikePie5
Refuting a left wing supporter:

1: Germany was a dictatorship, America is a republic. Nationalism benefits America, not some globalist who could care less.
2: Who said Trump wants to invade countries? Hillary Clinton voted in favor of the Iraq War....only Congress can declare war.
3: Just proves, our politicians are stupid and have no idea what they're doing. If he gets away with it, he's smart.
4: Trump likes everyone.....he likes Hispanics, he likes African Americans, and he likes Asians.
5: If the quality is bad, why should I pay. The person is just banking money for doing a terrible job.
6: Lawsuits came when he ran for President. There are videos of people suing him saying they loved the experience.
7: I don't think welfare or benefits are going away anytime soon. Economy is like business. Even I'm smart enough to know that the TPP and NAFTA are disasters that have cost us jobs.
8: You can't run a business while you're President...he's gonna give the business to his children
9: Wait and see huh? Hillary is known to be owned. Only thing that you can come up with is wait
10. A nation without borders is not a nation. A nation without laws is not a nation. It's not going to isolate America.... The minimum wage would naturally rise benefitting Americans if illegals are deported.
Trump has 4.5 billion dollars. What's he gonna do with more money? He's already in his 70s.
Posted by Dogter 4 months ago
Dogter
From before....
1.Trump believes in American exceptionalism./ Hitler believed in German exceptionalism and 6 million Jews paid the price for it.
2.Trump is tough, unafraid to flex America"s muscles, and has the backbone America needs to take on the evil growing around the world./ GWB flexed his muscles in Iraq which made the Middle East less stable and more prone to terrorism not less
3.Trump is an experienced and tough deal maker./ Trump has also never paid federal income tax under Republican or Democratic governments. Obviously everyone except him has no idea how to spend federam $
4.Trump is not politically correct; he"s not afraid to say what he believes and has ignited an honest debate./Trump is insulting to anyone who is not a white male.
5.Trump demands high performance and will fire anyone that doesn"t meet his high standards./ Trump does not pay people who do meet his standards. He is out for a $ to fill his pocket even on the backs of hard working Americans.
6.Trump is committed to education./How do you figure??? Lawsuits against his "university" did not come from nowhere
7.Trump "built that business" and many more and will run America like a business./ Government does not equal business. Business is cutthroat. Government is supposed to protect citizens. If he was the first President there would be no welfare, benefits, health care or support of any kind. Those who fail, die.
8.Trump will not balance his job as President with golf and other social events./He will instead run his business from the White House and benefit his own bottom line.
9.Trump"s loyalty will be only to America and Americans"not any political party, special interest group or foreign entity./ You think so eh? Wait and see how that works out for you.
10.Trump will support American laws, the Constitution, and the nation"s borders./ Your borders will close. American isolationist policy (read on that) never benefitted the 'little guy'.
Trump gets it./Trump wants more money
Posted by ILikePie5 4 months ago
ILikePie5
I can understand people not supporting Trump, but what I don't understand is why you would support Hillary. She is a disgrace to Americans being corrupt and totally bought off, not to mention a criminal.
Here's a short list of what Hillary has done:

-Hillary Clinton put national security at risk whether you like it or not.
-Hillary Clinton wants to bring in 550% more refugees even though ISIS and senior officials have said that operatives will infiltrate.
-Hillary Clinton accepts money from nations that are anti-LGBT and anti-Women. Hillary Clinton is owned by lobbyists and donors.
-The State Department under Hillary Clinton rejected 600 individual requests for security in Benghazi.
-Hillary Clinton lied to the families of the fallen soldiers in Benghazi and called them liars.
-Hillary Clinton is laying a siege upon the 2nd Amendment. Hillary Clinton wants to raise taxes on the middle class.
-Hillary Clinton gave Russia Uranium. Bill Clinton along with Hillary signed NAFTA and WTO which led to the massacre of jobs.
-Hillary Clinton voted for the Iraq War and later withdrew the troops which led to the formation of ISIS.
-Hillary Clinton called for the overthrow of Ghaddafi which led to the destablization of Libya.
-Hillary Clinton brought Iran to the negotiating table which led to the Iran Deal which is a disaster.
-Hillary Clinton knowingly defended a child rapist
-Hillary Clinton used Pay to Play during term as SoS
-Hillary Clinton supports the BLM organization that chants "Death to Cops"
-Who was caught lying about her crowd sizes? Hillary Clinton
-Who called a fourth of America "Deplorable" and "Irredeemable" Hillary
-Who called the African American youth "super predators" Hillary

But to her supporters......What difference does it make?
Posted by CynthiaJoannTerry 4 months ago
CynthiaJoannTerry
Trump aims more towards the rich man/woman. Clinton aims more towards the average American citizen. So, therefore, Clinton would be better.
Posted by Bocaj1000 4 months ago
Bocaj1000
First, in reply to NesterTheZizek, the opposite is true. Clinton won't do much to change America. She's just another "default" president. Trump on the other hand plans to make drastic changes to America's economy just for short-term wealth. He cares not for the environment, which is the most pressing long-term matter we face today. This shows a lack of preparation for the future.

Second, in reply to the Con side, all you have done was list random character values about Trump. Nothing about his policies, or his behavior, or his general intelligence. Only the positive character values. I could write a list of positive Clinton values just as easily and use that as an argument, and it would get us nowhere. Please use actual evidence why Trump's policies are better for the world than Clinton's.
Posted by PaulAtreides 4 months ago
PaulAtreides
The question is loaded because it is a black-or-white logical fallacy (You presented two alternative states as the only possibilities, when in fact more possibilities exist.)
The CPD is a collusion between the Dems and Reps to set an artificially high bar to prevent candidates of other parties from participating.
My answer to this question is neither. Neither possess the executive experience (such as being a governor) nor the appropriate insight into what the Constitution allows the office of the president to do. If they had that knowledge they would know that the bulk of the stuff they promise flies in the face of the Constitution. Basically, the office of the president has very little domestic power.
Posted by PaulAtreides 4 months ago
PaulAtreides
The question is loaded because it is a black-or-white logical fallacy (You presented two alternative states as the only possibilities, when in fact more possibilities exist.)
The CPD is a collusion between the Dems and Reps to set an artificially high bar to prevent candidates of other parties from participating.
My answer to this question is neither. Neither possess the executive experience (such as being a governor) nor the appropriate insight into what the Constitution allows the office of the president to do. If they had that knowledge they would know that the bulk of the stuff they promise flies in the face of the Constitution. Basically, the office of the president has very little domestic power.
Posted by NestorTheZizek 4 months ago
NestorTheZizek
I think Donald Trump would be better in the long-run, but if you want a stable person in office Hillary Clinton would probably be best during her term, but ultimately just perpetuate problems in the long term
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