The Instigator
IamLocke
Con (against)
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mgdielman
Pro (for)
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Private Industry is an Effective Method of Providing Health Care

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IamLocke
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/19/2014 Category: Health
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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IamLocke

Con

Private industry - companies owned by individuals or multiple stockholders; not owned by the government. To be truly private, there must be no government regulation, but there is some room for argument on at what amount of regulation constitutes a government-controlled and not privately-controlled company.

Effective is a debatable term, but generally it means productive or doing the most good for the greatest number of people possible (or close to it).

The guidelines for this debate will be: 4 rounds, 2,000 characters a round, with 72 hours for us to make our arguments.

The structure of this debate will be as follows:

Round 1: Acceptance only
Round 2: Opening arguments; rebuttal
Round 3: Rebuttal and argumentation
Round 4: Rebuttal and conclusion

I look forward to a mind-expanding debate!
mgdielman

Pro

I accept this debate, and for the sake of argument I am going to assume all current US regulations on business in general would be in place (for example all relevant anti-trust laws, seeing as corporatism is a completely different debate than healthcare) unless my opponent sees fit to clarify a different country or specifically attacks those regulations.
Debate Round No. 1
IamLocke

Con

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mgdielman

Pro

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Debate Round No. 2
IamLocke

Con

CON CASE

Allow me to begin by saying simply because I am con does not mean that I support Obamacare. I will prove that health care provided by private industry, in which hospitals and pharmaceutical companies can charge as much as they like, does not effectively serve the American people.

Today, the average cost of a single hospital visit is $9,700 (that's a lot. Way more than what it ACTUALLY costs the hospital). According to a 2009 study by The American Journal of Medicine, ~60% of Americans who declare bankruptcy do so because of medical bills. One of those Americans was Marsha Sutherland. On Aug. 30, 2007, she gave birth to her first child with her husband Simon - Ellie. Ellie was rushed to the neonatal unit right after her birth, however, for fear she had a seizure. Seizure or no seizure, however, Marsha's stay in the hospital ended up costing $74,000.

Marsha and Simon had done everything right. They had waited until they were financially independent to get married and have kids, both had middle-class jobs, and they both had insurance. But even with insurance, they were charged tens of thousands of dollars for operations on their child.

At the root of the problem is a conflict of interests when it comes to health care. When someone is in danger of losing life or limb, there is a system in place to give them the best care possible for the best possible chance of surviving. There is an altruistic response in human beings when of our own is dying - there's an instinctual response to try to help them, and I don't think that's a bad thing. However, the conflict of interest comes in when, without being given much of a choice (life or money), the victim and his or her family must pay an average of $1000 for each night spent in a hospital or an outlandish $25 per asprin.

People can't be expected to barter with their doctors over their lives; likewise, private industries will try to maximize their capital. The only solution is some amount of state regulation.
mgdielman

Pro

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Debate Round No. 3
IamLocke

Con

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mgdielman

Pro

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Debate Round No. 4
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Vote Placed by tylergraham95 3 years ago
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