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Harbalalism
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Private Property is nessesary for a sustainable modern society.

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 8/18/2009 Category: Society
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 812 times Debate No: 9255
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Harbalalism

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Private property is essential for a sustainable modern society. We see the emergence of private property in our biological cousins the chimpanzees which maintain primitive forms of private property. Private property has evolved with us and is seen through all societies. To reject private property and to claim that it is not necessary is just as absurd as saying humans do not place value on objects. Institutions such as the state violate property rights and must be abolished.
purplehaze

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Just took a chance with this but is private property not non existent in communism which governs over a part of modern society?

If so this disproves that private property is necessary for a sustainable modern society doesnt it?
Debate Round No. 1
Harbalalism

Pro

Incorrect the social system communism does not exist today because it has collapsed and is a good example of what happens to society which reject private property. Since it collapsed it gives evidence showing that it was never sustainable and never can be sustainable.
purplehaze

Con

Yeah well you have the burdon of proof anyway dont you?
Debate Round No. 2
Harbalalism

Pro

Soviet Russia 1917-1989
purplehaze

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Well I take it you meant that private property is necessary for a modern society we can sustain indefinitely yeah.

Ok then. How do you know that modern society is sustainable? Just because it hasnt crashed yet doesnt mean it wont.

Like you cant say something can be sustained indefinitely just becuase it has lasted so far.

Like as you said "the social system communism does not exist today" and "Since it collapsed it gives evidence showing that it was never sustainable and never can be sustainable"......Will we find Democracy to be the same should it collapse?
Debate Round No. 3
Harbalalism

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Harbalalism forfeited this round.
purplehaze

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Debate Round No. 4
Harbalalism

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purplehaze

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purplehaze forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Cerebral_Narcissist 8 years ago
Cerebral_Narcissist
Here comrade, take this ticket and stand in the line over there. When you reach the counter you shall be accorded points dependent on your need by a properly authorised state bureacrat.
Posted by brian_eggleston 8 years ago
brian_eggleston
Well, if it was, at least it wasn't a one sentence joke...I should get points for that, right?
Posted by Cerebral_Narcissist 8 years ago
Cerebral_Narcissist
I am assuming that was a joke right?
Posted by brian_eggleston 8 years ago
brian_eggleston
Comrades living in the capitalist West will be all too familiar with the many laws that the decadent ruling classes have introduced to preserve their privileged positions in society - often oppressing the masses by denying them their birth rights as citizens in the process.

One example of this type of perverse legislation is the assumption in law that the landed gentry, parasitic aristocrats, fat-cat farmers and other filthy-rich property owners have the right to "sole enjoyment" of their land and are, therefore, entitled to exclude the general public from it.

Clearly, these laws date back to feudal times and have no place in the modern, democratic socialist societies that the more enlightened amongst us hope will soon replace the corrupt and discredited capitalist regimes of Western Europe and North America.

On this issue, we must follow the example of former Soviet bloc states in Eastern Europe, where the interests of the people continues to take precedence over the vested interests of the Bourgeoisie.
Posted by Cerebral_Narcissist 8 years ago
Cerebral_Narcissist
One sentence arguments?
Posted by Harbalalism 8 years ago
Harbalalism
I define modern as a civilized form of societal organization in contrast to a barbaric society which is unsustainable, and will lead to it's own collapse or inevitable destruction.
Posted by Xer 8 years ago
Xer
So many different ways to win by semantics on this debate... but I'd feel bad doing it to a 74 year-old. hahah
Posted by MTGandP 8 years ago
MTGandP
You need some definitions. Defining "modern" would be especially helpful.
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Vote Placed by Cody_Franklin 8 years ago
Cody_Franklin
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