The Instigator
baus
Pro (for)
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The Contender
DerKing
Con (against)
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Pro is requesting Con to be Pro friend on this site.

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Started: 5/27/2014 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (3)
Comments (6)
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baus

Pro

I am requesting Con to be my friend on this site as I have no other way to contact him.

I have comments but this is the only direct way to address him and only him.

If he accepts this debate, he must prove beyond reasonable doubt that the resolution is false.

Also, I like Con's voting style and would appreciate his vote on this debate.

http://www.debate.org...

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DerKing

Con

I accept. Because not mentioned, I will go first.

Because no definitions were posted, I will clarify resolution. The time the resolution applies is when I post my first round.

Pro claims that he is attempting to be my friend on this site, however, at the time this resolution applies this is simply not true. If you go to www.debate.org/derking/ you will see that I am already his friend. It is simple logic, if you are friends with them, then you cannot attempt to be friends with them. Because I am a good sport, I will continue to debate even though I blew his argument out of the water ;).
Debate Round No. 1
baus

Pro

Firstly, I wasn't his friend when I made this resolution but I can't prove that...

Anyway, he makes the points that if I am his friend on this site that I cannot be requesting to be his friend on this site.

This is simply not true because it is very plausible that I am insane or lacking in rationality.

There is a huge variety of mental disorder that I could have that would lead me to either forget that we were friends, not realize that my other personality had already done this out of the paranoia that my memory was being falsely constructed by brain-washers and the only way to cure it was by asking him to be a friend even thought the brainwashing had left me thinking he was my friend already.

The disorders, respectively, are Alzheimer's, amnesia (as well as ADD and ADHD that would lead to being too distracted to remember that we were friends while I wanted to make this debate), the others are dissociative identity disorder and schizophrenia respectively.

Another point to consider is that I may have strategically hoped that Con would delete me as a friend due to my stupidity for making this debate and accept it at a later time, meaning this entire thing was a double bluff to eventually get him to be my friend.

Another points is that the resolution says "Pro friend" not "Pro's friend" so maybe I am just pro-friends as opposed to pro-enemies in general, within the premises of Debate.Org and want Con to be pro-friend too.

I support this resolution!

http://alzheimers.org.uk...
http://www.mayoclinic.org...
http://www.helpguide.org...
http://www.webmd.com...
http://www.mind.org.uk...
DerKing

Con

I will negate all of his points in order. For one, he admits he cannot disprove my statements, nor does he disagree with my definitions, so they all stand.

Pro says it is very plausible that he could have one of four mental disorders, but because he is affirming the statement, he had the burden of proof and he has not upheld it. Also, the chance is even less likely, as amnesia is temporary, and not a mental disorder. as I live around people with severe ADD, from firsthand experience I know that ADD and ADHD do not cause memory loss[1]. Also, if he had any of the other mental disorders, chances are he would not be on this site.

Again, Pro states that "I may have hoped" but that does not uphold his burden of proof. And hope is in no way, shape, of form real evidence or a real point.

For the statement about the resolution, Pro says maybe, which shows that is not the actual meaning of the resolution, and again fails to uphold his burden of proof. Also you can deduce from all his spelling and grammar errors, such as the one involving "point" in that same sentence, that the resolution simply had a spelling error and that was not the actual resolution.

[1]http://www.helpguide.org...
Debate Round No. 2
baus

Pro

One can have something and hope that they lose that thing to then get that thing again.

I may have wanted to lose the friendship with Con and gain it again and Con cannot disprove this for only I know what I want.
DerKing

Con

"One can have something and hope that they lose that thing to then get that thing again." Yes, but that does not actually mean that they are trying to be my friend.

Because you have not come up with enough evidence to fulfill your burden of proof, and because you failed to negate any of my points, I should win. Vote Con.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by baus 3 years ago
baus
Not at all, I just will need some time to formulate a counter-argument.

The voting restrictions mean only noobs can vote anyway and most noobs haven't even confirmed their identity yet.
Posted by DerKing 3 years ago
DerKing
And I do not care about my record anyway, I do this for fun. I will concede if you want me to.
Posted by DerKing 3 years ago
DerKing
I apologize, I did not see your comment. How does it affect our scores if we tie?
Posted by baus 3 years ago
baus
Ah, you posted, very well then.
Posted by baus 3 years ago
baus
I'd appreciate if you just let the timer run out as you don't get a forfeit if you forfeit round one, you just get a cancelled debate. Otherwise this will go on our records.

Thanks.
Posted by DerKing 3 years ago
DerKing
I will vote on it later, when I am not so tired. There is still 8 days left.
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