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ilovedebate
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mongeese
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Professional athletes get paid way too much

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Started: 1/29/2010 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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ilovedebate

Pro

Thank you to whoever accepts my debate
Let me start off...
Professional athletes get paid way too much. Here are some statistics on the salaries of pro athletes.
Profession Average salary (per year) Minimum starting salary
Basketball player $2.2 million $220,000
Baseball player $1.37 million $109,000
Hockey player $892,000 $125,000
Football player $795,000 $131,000

In contrast
• The average pay for classroom teachers in the
United States is $38,000 per year. At that
rate, a teacher would need a little more than
27 years to make $1 million — less than half
what a basketball player makes, on average,
in just one year.
• The average pay for firefighters in the United
States is around $40,000.
• The starting salary for police officers in the
United States is around $29,000.
Do athletes deserve more money than fire-
fighters or teachers — people who hold what
many consider to be more valuable jobs?

People who think pro athletes are overpaid say other, more important professions are more worthy. Police officers,firefighters, and doctors save lives sometimes while risking their own— for a fraction of what sports stars make. Soldiers defend and protect the country, sometimes giving their lives. Teachers are responsible for educating the country's children. The president of the United States earns $200,000 a year. Should the leader of the country make less money per year than a basketball player who is just starting out?
mongeese

Con

We live in a capitalistic society. Under capitalism, a person is paid capital slightly less than the profit that the employer thinks he will receive upon hiring the employee. Such is the exact same with sports [1].

The reason sports athletes are paid so much is because they are able to produce so much profit. Alex Rodriguez was obviously predicted to increase the revenue of the Yankees by millions, which naturally made a salary of millions seem reasonable. Society put this power in A-Rod's hands by deciding to pay more for games involving the skill of Alex Rodriguez; Alex Rodriguez produced lots of profit, and therefore deserved a portion of the profit he helped his employer receive.

My opponent compares athletes to teachers, firefighters, and police officers. However, there are numerous reasons why they would not be paid nearly as much:

1. The competition is not as great for hiring those jobs.

People don't put extreme value on how well a teacher can teach. One teacher might give a private school around $1,000 dollars more in profit per year over another teacher. Therefore, it would not make sense to give the better teacher an offer that is more than $1,000 over the offer to the other teacher. Parents would not be willing to pay the tuition for a private school that paid $2 million to every teacher.

2. Athletes appeal to a greater audience.

When a police station hires policemen, only the local population is concerned about the skill of their police force. Let's say that in one city of 15,000 people, there are 30 working policemen. In order to pay the policemen $2 million each, the city would overall have to be taxed $60 million. This would amount to $4,000 per person. However, people are not willing to pay $4,000 of their own money in taxes towards their local police force. Therefore, a $2 million salary would be completely unreasonable.

Meanwhile, an athlete appeals to a much greater audience. Millions of people are watching sports every day. Millions of dollars pour into the sports industry every day. If there are one million Yankee fans in the United States who would be willing to see A-Rod play over another player, and they each pay $50 over the course of the season (through tickets, refreshments, TV stations, advertisements, etc.), the Yankees profit $50 million off of A-Rod. A-Rod then receives about half of that.

Finally, my opponent brings up the president. The president does not make $200,000 per year, but $400,000 [2], in addition to other various goodies such as expensive plane trips on Air Force One. The job of president is not determined by capitalism, but by democracy. Therefore, capitalistic principles cannot apply. If the government were to work under capitalism, we'd see presidents making more money, and probably being more successful. Blame democracy.

In conclusion, capitalism justifies the high salaries of athletes. Good luck, ilovedebate.

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Debate Round No. 1
ilovedebate

Pro

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mongeese

Con

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Debate Round No. 2
ilovedebate

Pro

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mongeese

Con

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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by mongeese 5 years ago
mongeese
Vote-bombers.
Posted by KeytarHero 5 years ago
KeytarHero
How in the world did Con not win this, seeing as though Pro forfeited the debate?
Posted by mongeese 7 years ago
mongeese
Wow, vote-bombers.
Posted by Rezzealaux 7 years ago
Rezzealaux
lol @ PRO using objective value theory
Posted by mongeese 7 years ago
mongeese
Disclaimer: most numbers used in examples are purely theoretical.
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