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XVIII18
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Public High Schools are legally not allowed to teach Creationism

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/11/2015 Category: Religion
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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XVIII18

Pro

I will be arguing that public high schools are not legally allowed to teach creationism in the United States. The Con side will be arguing that public high schools are legally allowed to teach creationism.
Debate Round No. 1
XVIII18

Pro

Thanks debater 926 for accepting this debate.

Under the first amendment lies the establishment clause which states that the government shall not make any law respecting the establishment of any religion.

If a public school were to begin teaching creationism without the respect to other religions this would thereby be going against this clause of the first amendment.

A court case that has declared on this topic is the case: Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District

In this case, the Supreme Court claimed that intelligent design (ID) being taught was an unconstitutional establishment of religion.

Another court case, Epperson v. Arkansas, brought the Supreme Court to the conclusion that Arkansas's law prohibiting the teaching of evolution was in violation of the First Amendment. The Supreme Court held that the Establishment Clause prohibits the state from advancing any religion, and determined that the Arkansas law which allowed the teaching of creation while disallowing the teaching of evolution advanced a religion, and was therefore in violation of the Establishment Clause.

Therefore, since the Supreme Court has declared that teaching creationism in the science class is illegal, public high schools are not legally allowed to teach creationism.
Dabater926

Con

Dabater926 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
XVIII18

Pro

Seeing that Dabater926 has forfeited the previous round I will have to hold on my statements made in the second round.
Dabater926

Con

Dabater926 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by UndeniableReality 2 years ago
UndeniableReality
@recalculated
I didn't know what creationism was until I already had two university degrees, so technically what you said isn't true =P. I've still never met a creationist, that I know of, in real life, or seen one in person. It would be interesting to.
Posted by recalculated 2 years ago
recalculated
All kids already know what creationism is by the time they reach high school, let's be realistic. No need to mention it.
Posted by Esiar 2 years ago
Esiar
They should mention it at the very least.
Posted by numberwang 2 years ago
numberwang
You need to specify that it isn't allowed to teach it in *science* class. If its a discussion of like religions or history and creationism comes up that is okay, but you can't teach creationism as scientific theory. Con could just argue that creationism is okay in either of those classes and win on semantics.
Posted by recalculated 2 years ago
recalculated
@XVIII18 Make a debate about whether creationism *should* be legal to teach in schools.
Posted by XVIII18 2 years ago
XVIII18
Recalculated: What would you suggest I change about the debate?
Posted by Zarroette 2 years ago
Zarroette
Debating truisms, lol.
Posted by recalculated 2 years ago
recalculated
This debate is pointless. You should have created a debate about whether creationism should be taught in schools instead, since the Supreme Court has already classified creationism as 'religion', which is against the law to promote in public schools.
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