The Instigator
Death_note_L
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I-am-a-panda
Con (against)
Winning
35 Points

Quebec should not leave Canada

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/24/2009 Category: News
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Death_note_L

Pro

I hate the fact that Quebec wants to leave Canada and become a new country, first it would separate Canada into two parts, if Quebec started a war it will create havoc every ware and every map of Canada would need to change.
I-am-a-panda

Con

I would firstly like to thank my opponent for this interesting debate. I shall take the CON stance, promoting the fact that Quebec should have the option to leave Canada.

==Argument==

To start, I will firstly analyse reasons why Quebec would want to leave Canada. The main reason is the vast difference in culture. In contrast to the culture That western Canada has ,which his inspired by British culture, Quebec has a French culture. They speak French with pride, eat French foods, and in general are proud to call themselves Quebecois rather than Canadian. It is also important to remember on this ground that Britain and France were never good neighbours. They often warred, and quarrelled and their culture is wholly unique from the others.

It is stupid to try and force a new culture onto the people of a country. A country remains unique from another because of it's unique culture, and stripping a country of it's culture is unjust.

My opponent may respond saying their is no reason for Quebec to split over this, and it is trivial, but I beg to differ. I have two case studies where a nation is divided over culture, and in similar context.

==Case Studies==

They are:
1) Northern Ireland:
In the early 20th century, dissent grew amongst the Irish, and they wanted to be a separate state from Britain. Ireland was given it's independence, under the condition Northern Ireland would remain part of Britain. Te reasoning for this was cultural divide. The south of Ireland felt proud of it's Gaelic heritage and wished to revive it, where as the Irish in the North felt more proud of the British culture. This led to two different nations on the same island.

2) Gibraltar:
A small town on the end of the Iberian peninsula, it is surrounded by Spain. It was taken by British soldiers some 400 years ago, and still remains under British rule to this day. It retains British culture, and has refused joining Spain. Despite attempts made by Spain to control it, they have failed.

==Rebuttal==

'I hate the fact that Quebec wants to leave Canada and become a new country'
It is purely your opinion and should not be part of your argument.

'first it would separate Canada into two parts'
Although this is true, it would not be an awkward arrangement. Quebec comprises of a large part of Eastern Canada, as seen in this map: http://en.wikipedia.org...
It is quite obvious my opponent has thought he is only arguing over the city, when he is arguing over the province.
Quebec would have a port, and would not be landlocked.

'if Quebec started a war it will create havoc every ware'
Firstly, why would Quebec want to start a war? They have no enemies, aside from Canadians who want them to remain part of Canada. Secondly, Quebec is by the sea. With modern technology, there would be no mistaking Canada and Quebec, and thus it would not create havoc.

'every map of Canada would need to change'
Aside from the fact there is only one map of Canada and the rest are duplicates, I see no reason why there would be a major change in Canada's map. It would require the area of Quebec to be given a border and shaded a different colour. I would see no reason why Canada would go out of it's way to change the whole map.

==Summary==
To summarise this round, my opponent's argument comes from the perspective he was only talking about the city, not the province. Because he has not reserved the right to change the resolution, he must argue why the province of Quebec should remain part of Canada. In doing so, must of his points are invalid.

As well, I have shown examples of countries splitting or remaining separated over cultural differences. Countries with cultural differences should be able to remain separate to ease tensions, and above all, retain their culture.

Thus far, I urge a CON vote.
Debate Round No. 1
Death_note_L

Pro

Death_note_L forfeited this round.
I-am-a-panda

Con

Since my opponent has not responded, I extend my argument and await his response.
Debate Round No. 2
Death_note_L

Pro

Death_note_L forfeited this round.
I-am-a-panda

Con

Since my opponent has forfeited 2 rounds and not given any form of rebuttal or extended argument, I urge a PRO vote.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by SaraMarie 8 years ago
SaraMarie
Seeing as Death_note_L didnt put up much of a fight. All points to the panda.
Posted by I-am-a-panda 8 years ago
I-am-a-panda
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Posted by brian_eggleston 8 years ago
brian_eggleston
Are there any Japanese girls where you study, John? If you found one that was still a virgin, you could ask her to teach you Japanese and, in return, you could "enlighten" her in another way!
Posted by s0m31john 8 years ago
s0m31john
Nein.
Ich spreche ein bisschen Deutsch.

Watashi wa nihongo wo sukoshi hanashimasu.
Posted by I-am-a-panda 8 years ago
I-am-a-panda
Tu parles un pue le francais? Je parle un peu le francais. Et je parle irlandais. Tu parle beaucoup Japonais et Allemand?
Posted by s0m31john 8 years ago
s0m31john
Je parle un peu le francais.

espagnol
allemand
et japonais
Posted by I-am-a-panda 8 years ago
I-am-a-panda
Je parle francais. J'aime le francais, il est beau.
Posted by s0m31john 8 years ago
s0m31john
Parlez vous Francais?
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