The Instigator
wjmelements
Pro (for)
Winning
28 Points
The Contender
ChristianM
Con (against)
Losing
21 Points

'Quote Battles' are not debates.

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wjmelements
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 3/10/2009 Category: Arts
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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wjmelements

Pro

http://www.Debate.org...

They do not argue or discuss; therefore, it is not a debate.

Debate-a regulated discussion of a proposition between two matched sides http://www.merriam-webster.com...

As we can see in an example of the 'debates' I have in mind, they simply throw out quotes. While this is relevant to the contention, they do not argue why their quotes are better or funnier. In this manner, this is no debate.
ChristianM

Con

I will allow my opponent to argue the second round.
Debate Round No. 1
wjmelements

Pro

I have already argued:

Because this debate does not match the definition, it is not a debate (by definition).

There is no discussion or argumentation; therefore, it is not a debate.

Good luck to my opponent.
ChristianM

Con

"As we can see in an example of the 'debates' I have in mind, they simply throw out quotes. While this is relevant to the contention, they do not argue why their quotes are better or funnier. In this manner, this is no debate."

When I clicked on the above, said debate, I looked immediatly at the topic. It said "Funny Quotes". Because the topic said "Funny Quotes" I knew immediatly that the deabte was about which quote was funnier. Theitalianstallion had clearly won. This proves that my opponents quote above this very paragraph is wrong, because they were debating which quote was funnier.

"Debate-a regulated discussion of a proposition between two matched sides http://www.merriam-webster.com...;
Well, I also clicked on this link and saw the definition and you are clearly right. A debate is a proposal that is debated between 2 matched sides. That was the noun form, the VERB form states the debating is to contend words to see which side is better. Well, your definition is right, as well as mine. Debating is a contending of words, and if those words happen to be quotes, so be it.
Debate Round No. 2
wjmelements

Pro

"That was the noun form, the VERB form states the debating is to contend words to see which side is better."

In the resolution of this debate, the noun form is used.

"I knew immediatly that the deabte was about which quote was funnier. Theitalianstallion had clearly won. This proves that my opponents quote above this very paragraph is wrong, because they were debating which quote was funnier."

Having a resolution does not make it a debate. There was no discussion, and there is no argument. My opponent cannot source a time in which one side argued that their quotes were better.

Because they did not argue or discuss, there was no debate. Vote PRO. Thank you.
ChristianM

Con

Yes, I do agree that the NOUN form of this debate was used, however, a debate in your NOUN definition, is a proposal that is contended by 2 matched sides. In these cases the proposal is "Who has funnier/happier/better quotes?" and the 2 matched sides are the 2 contenders.
"There was no discussion, and there is no argument. My opponent cannot source a time in which one side argued that their quotes were better."
As a matter of fact, I can cite where they say it was a debate and which side to vote for because their quotes were better. Furthermore, the arguments in this situation were actually, quotes! The following excerpt is from the debate that MY OPPONENT even cited (making it a reliable source):
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"theitalianstallion

Pro
First, I thank my opponent for this DEBATE and such a fun one at that.

Now, for my quotes..."
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"theitalianstallion

Pro
Thanx again for the DEBATE and best of luck.
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"theitalianstallion

PRO
Again, thanx for the DEBATE.

And a reminder to vote Con
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(funny thing was, he was pro)

Well, even the competitors consider this a debate. Theitalianstallion (a prominent member of DDO) even said so. Clearly my opponents argument is wrong because, while he states that there is no arguing in a quote battle, there is because you are arguing which quotes are better and also because he states I could not cite where there was a mention of a debate or which quotes were better. Well, I provided 3 and can provide plenty more, but i dont feel lik plucking through every quote battle on DDO.

I urge a CON ballot on this debate. I thank my opponent for studiously bringing this topic up and thank all of the voters and viewers for observing. Thank you ALL!
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by RoyLatham 5 years ago
RoyLatham
Pro is correct for exactly the reasons he gave. Giving examples for an audience to judge is a contest, but not a debate. "Tastier food," "Best song," "Best poem," could all be judged by an audience, but unless argued with facts and logic they would not be debates. They would be preference polls.
Posted by wjmelements 5 years ago
wjmelements
But they don't argue which is better. They just put quotes.

And this is no lifestyle. You sound so silly.
Posted by bookwormbill111 5 years ago
bookwormbill111
i think that this debate is nonsense. i am completely against the resolution. i thoughly enjoy quote debates. in a quote debate, you are arguing: who has the better quote. in any other debate, you are arguing: who has the better arguement. it's not that different. besides, if you don't want it to count towards your win-lose ratio, then set the voting period for: ' not ending' or something like that. i forget what it's called. come on people! you're not just debating over a topic. you're debating over a lifestyle. would you deprive people of what they love?
Posted by ChristianM 5 years ago
ChristianM
I agree but his topic does not address that.
Posted by I-am-a-panda 5 years ago
I-am-a-panda
Quote debates shouldn't count towards percentile and win ratio.
Posted by XimenBao 5 years ago
XimenBao
I think wjmelements won the definition argument and therefore the debate, but the decision would have been easier if he had challenged the appropriateness of the verb form, rather than apparently conceding that the verb form would have been appropriate if used.
Posted by wjmelements 5 years ago
wjmelements
I'm not saying that they should be banned, COD.
Posted by theitalianstallion 5 years ago
theitalianstallion
I agree with crackofdawn. Although they aren't actual debates, people enjoy them.

Also, I've seen people say that debates are meant for the sharing of ideas. Well isn't the sharing of what you think is funny, the sharing of ideas?
Posted by crackofdawn_Jr 5 years ago
crackofdawn_Jr
Sure, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed.
Posted by sabrafink 5 years ago
sabrafink
I am new here, but I agree. People should argue, just address the contrary!!!
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