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codiz
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LakevilleNorthJT
Con (against)
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45 Points

Racing horses should not be able to use steroids

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/3/2008 Category: Sports
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
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codiz

Pro

i think just like any other sport, your talent should be judged by your NATURAL talent. any horse can buff itself up with steroids. its only the good horses that can use their Natural ability to become great.
LakevilleNorthJT

Con

I will start by adressing the arguments of my opponent.

"think just like any other sport, your talent should be judged by your NATURAL talent."

TO WIN THIS ARGUMENT, MY OPPONENT HAS TO SHOW THAT EVERY PLAYER IN EVERY OTHER SPORT PLAYS WITH NATURAL TALENT. COUNTE- EXAMPLE- BASEBALL. MANY BASEBALL PLAYERS HAVE BEEN DETERMINED TO HAVE USED STEROIDS.

"any horse can buff itself up with steroids."

This is true. But steroids don't amount to greatness. Some talent was already there.

"its only the good horses that can use their Natural ability to become great."

This is a complete opinion.

My opponent is being very vague and not explaing his position.

VOTE CON
Debate Round No. 1
codiz

Pro

guess what? in baseball ITS ILLEGAL. now im not saying that no one does the m because they do but ITS ILLEGAL
back to horses

youre right, steroiids dont amount to greatness. but it can make the differnce from winning by half a foot to losing by half a foot.

"its only the good horses that can use their natural ability to become great"-me
"this is a complete poinion"-opponent

so , opponent, are you saying that non-talented racing horses can win?

VOTE PRO
LakevilleNorthJT

Con

"guess what? in baseball ITS ILLEGAL. now im not saying that no one does the m because they do but ITS ILLEGAL
back to horses"

You said-"just like any other sport, your talent should be judged by your NATURAL talent"

I said-"TO WIN THIS ARGUMENT, MY OPPONENT HAS TO SHOW THAT EVERY PLAYER IN EVERY OTHER SPORT PLAYS WITH NATURAL TALENT. COUNTE- EXAMPLE- BASEBALL. MANY BASEBALL PLAYERS HAVE BEEN DETERMINED TO HAVE USED STEROID"

You clearly said that in other sports players always use natural talent. I argued that this is untrue and gave the example of baseball.

""its only the good horses that can use their natural ability to become great"-me
"this is a complete poinion"-opponent

so , opponent, are you saying that non-talented racing horses can win?"

No, that is not what I am saying at all. You said that all horses who are good have natural ability. My argument is that ability is not "natural" but rather a result of training and work.

I have refuted everything my opponent has said.

VOTE CON.
Debate Round No. 2
codiz

Pro

when i said "natural" i did not me the horses god-given talent, i ment his

talent from training and working where as steroids is "artificial" talent.

take kobe bryant for an example. you have to admit, he does sometimes get foul

calls that some other players may not get. Kobe bryant is good and he

definitely deserved the MVP. Saying that, he does not need the extra help from

the referees.now, to tie that back into horse racing, just like kobe bryant,

horses do not need extra help.

VOTE PRO.
LakevilleNorthJT

Con

"when i said "natural" i did not me the horses god-given talent, i ment his

talent from training and working where as steroids is "artificial" talent."

My opponent still does not refute the argument that says skills come from working to reach a common goal.

"take kobe bryant for an example. you have to admit, he does sometimes get foul

calls that some other players may not get. "

I don't have to admit anything. MY OPPONENT NEVER SUPPORTS THIS CLAIM. THUS DO NOT LOOK TO IT IN THIS ROUND.

"Kobe bryant is good and he

definitely deserved the MVP. Saying that, he does not need the extra help from

the referees.now, to tie that back into horse racing, just like kobe bryant,

horses do not need extra help."

FIRST YOU SAY BRYANT GETS HELP. THEN YOU SAY THAT JUST LIKE BRYANT HORSES DONT NEED HELP??

MY OPPONENT CONTRADICTS HIMSELF MANY TIMES AND NEVER PROVES THE RESOLUTION TRUE.

VOTE CON
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by codiz 8 years ago
codiz
yes crazypenguin, in horse racing horses are able to take steroids.
VOTE PRO.
Posted by crazypenguin 8 years ago
crazypenguin
Racing Horses use steroids?!?!?!
Posted by LakevilleNorthJT 8 years ago
LakevilleNorthJT
YOU CANT SUPPORT YOUR ARGUMENTS AFTER THE ROUND IS OVER!!!
Posted by codiz 8 years ago
codiz
I said, bryant gets help he doesnt need.
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