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Merda
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Brainmaster
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Rap battle 1a: Benjamin Tucker versus Karl Marx

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Started: 6/17/2011 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Merda

Pro

Pro raps as Benjamin Tucker.
Con raps as Karl Marx.

Style will be traditional self hype and diss.

Battle begins in R2, R1 is only for acceptance. Good luck.
Brainmaster

Con

I accept.

I will be rapping from a communist stance.
Debate Round No. 1
Merda

Pro

While my opponent may rap as a communist, his primary perspective in this debate is that of Karl Marx. So since Karl Marx was himself a communist, Con may take a secondary communist perspective in this rap battle. However, most of my attacks will be directed at Marx specifically.

What's up mr. commie
it's ben tucker speakin now
ima go take down the four monopolies
while your busy suckin mao

You wrote some heavy stuff I gotta admit
but when it comes to rapping I know you can't spit
cause you know you're unfit, your lucky I even permit
your weak a$s sh1t compared to my wit

Go back to Das Kapital and let the real g's speak
better yet, you should probably work on your technique
while i form my critique
of your weak a$s raps cause mine are unique

But now down to the point
lets go over your stuff
im gonna crush your ideas
like i did your moms mvff

You had marxism, communism and too much ideology
and I know you contributed a little to sociology
but lets take it slow
and just let the rhymes flow
let me school you in the science of a$s kick-ology

You had your ideas about exploitation
but wasn't it voluntary association?
your theory is misinterpretation
and misqualification

Now on to "dictatorship of the proletariat"
you seemed to have ridden in on your flaming chariot
proclaiming to bring down the bourgeoisie
but then you replace them, don't you see?

You say the poor are exploited by the rich
but then you resort to their own methods, you b1tch!
how inconsistent and contradicting
have you no shame with all this bullsh1ting?

I have the solutions
all you have is questions
I practice non-aggression so fvck off
that ain't a suggestion

I believe in private property
you believe in forced poverty
I believe in individual liberty
your just a social referee

Theft and aggression is all you know
your all against the status-quo
but whether commie or statist it's all the same
whether theft is the first name and aggression the surname
or even vice verca, geez it's all so lame

I guess it's over quick
go home, little prick
Ben Tucker out
can you come back? Let's find out.
Brainmaster

Con

So you call yourself Ben Tucker?
Haha, what a huge assfvcker
It must be sad to be Americans
With you and your fellow barbarians

You ask for no society?
Ha! What worthless self-piety
I'm here to propose equality
You would deny our polity?

I show you Communist philosophy
Anarchy is just an anomaly
Your plan shows high levels of entropy
Communism's best, I guarantee

You would submit to anarchy?
Well, that would infect us adversely
You're hearing this from Karl Marx
I'm like a fire, and Pro's just sparks

So you wrote a magazine called Liberty?
Let me show you this, it's called VICTORY
I wrote up the Commie Manifesto
We should put it into action! Presto! Presto!

I'm a good man, I'm all for equal rights
Let's read anarchy its last rites
To each according to his need,
Now let's make anarchy recede
Debate Round No. 2
Merda

Pro

You made some mistakes
let me clear them up here
in fear you'll quake
when this battle I commandeer

You think society=state
you really must be high
those two you equate?
Why do you misapply?

Society defined is people associating
while the state defined is people expropriating
society I think is really just fine
while government is evil by design

Anarchy an anomoly?
More like a free society
Communism's best?
What evidence can you attest?

Famine, death, and bleak starvation
that's the Commie allocation
Is that really an aspiration?
Me, I'd rather have death by castration

All of Anarchism you've misconstrued
now I'm afraid you're really screwed
of this battle I'm the MVP
Es lebe die Anarchie!
Brainmaster

Con

That's a great idea there man
Absolutely nothing to control or ban
Let them run wild with no restriction
I have some terrible predictions

So just follow me in communism
It's a great reason for optimism
Anarchy, no way it will last
It will fall to barbarians, fast

Control their lives, control their food
You support them, they support you
Anarchy is a fool's road
Such a society will quickly erode

It's the theory of power, theory of value
You can see its power, can't you?
Don't you understand how well I think?
I'll throw all anarchy and that sh!t down the sink

Don't you see the greatness of a communist state?
It's absolutely perfect, it's absolutely great
Only one man would dare defame me
And that ain't you but Charleslb
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by el-badgero 6 years ago
el-badgero
epic indeed.
Posted by Merda 6 years ago
Merda
Anything you want really. I never specified so you can judge based on if you think I best rapped according to my perspective or just judge the rap by itself, in which case the perspectives are merely a framing point. I'm going to be doing a series of character themed rap battles.
Posted by Thaddeus 6 years ago
Thaddeus
Epic. How are we to judge this as voters? Better arguments presented through rap, best emulation of the individual or best rap?
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Vote Placed by bradshaw93 6 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: It kind of fell into a rap debate between anarchism and communism. Though Pro's raps flowed better and were more creative. This I think is my fav rap: ""Famine, death, and bleak starvation that's the Commie allocation Is that really an aspiration?""
Vote Placed by medic0506 6 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Considering the styles, self-hype and diss, I gotta give it to con.
Vote Placed by Cliff.Stamp 6 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Excellent idea from Tim, solid performance from both, but reading a loud I had a stronger pull towards Pro. 4:3