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BryanMullinsNOCHRISTMAS2
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TheGhostOfCivilization
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Rape Is A Good Thing: Guns And Violence Have Nothing To Do With Rape

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 5/16/2017 Category: Society
Updated: 8 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
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BryanMullinsNOCHRISTMAS2

Pro

Guns and Violence have nothing to do with Rape.

Rape is only when a guy decides (without asking) to have sex with a female volunteer forcefully (normal) and protectively (making sure that the female volunteer doesn't fight it).
What if somebody asks me "Well, Bryan what if the rapist brings a gun out during rape or when the woman fights it?
prove to me that it has nothing to do with guns!"
I would say, No! That analogy is irrelevant and random, When someone forcefully has sex with a female volunteer, that has nothing to do with guns or violence. Raping someone has nothing to do with guns or violence. It's not even about guns and violence at all.

I've proven that rape is a good thing if you just let it happen:
"Rape Is A Good Thing If You Just Let It Happen.

If a man wants to have sex with you forcefully and protectively; if you just let it happen, you will be alright (sometimes, its tough love)
those are 2 wills for each other
if you fight the rape, that is against the man's will
if you just let it happen, you'll feel sexually delighted

If your parent tells you "You should be ashamed of yourself"
your parent is against your will
Ignore people who tell you "You should be ashamed of yourself"
those people are against your will, Not the Rapist, and Not Yourself"

Link: www.debate.org/debates/Rape-Is-A-Good-Thing/1/
TheGhostOfCivilization

Con

Rape is a horrible thing for any man to do to any woman (or another man for that matter). It's certainly not acceptable or natural to do, the fact that men are quite capable of controlling themselves and can sexually pleasure themselves with mastrubation (jacking off) instead of sex is evidence of rape not being natural or mandatory for men to do. Rape is very traumatizing to the victim which is another reason it is not natural, nobody in their right mind would do this to another person, especially a physically weaker person. Rape victims describe their trauma as being life-long and they often require counseling to help them recover, rape victims also have very high rates of suicide compared to the average rate. What about the victim becoming pregnant? How emotionally painful it must be to have to get your rapist's child aborted. Now, guns and violence do not cause rape. Neither do short skirts, alcohol, porn, religion, or TV/music cause rape. Only rapists cause rape, people need to be held accountable for their actions instead of us pointing fingers at everything but them. Rape is certainly not a good thing, it's simply evil and not acceptable because of the pain it inflicts on the victim.
Debate Round No. 1
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Posted by Crazy456Rhino 7 months ago
Crazy456Rhino
@BryanMullinsNOCHRISTMAS2 Think of it like this. What makes you happy?
Posted by whiteflame 7 months ago
whiteflame
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3 points to Con (Arguments). Reasons for voting decision: The resolution states "Rape is a good thing" and "Guns and Violence have nothing to do with rape". So Pro needs to show both of these to win. Con refutes the first part, saying it can be traumatizing, and is. This goes uncontested by Pro. Arguments to Con, since Pro didn't fulfill the entire resolution.

[*Reason for non-removal*] While the voter should probably have examined at least one of the arguments given by Pro, the analysis of the BoP in this debate and how Pro failed to meet it is sufficient. The voter is only required to explain the BoP and provide reasons why it wasn"t met, and he does so.
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Posted by BryanMullinsNOCHRISTMAS2 7 months ago
BryanMullinsNOCHRISTMAS2
@ConserativeDemocrat "By your logic, if a woman walks into my school with a gun, and I attack her and get shot, it was my fault. What kind of screwed up morality do you have?"
It is not screwed up, you made a pointless argument, first don't be stupid, you don't just attack a woman like that and she won't attack you exactly like if you don't fight the rape, he or she will not kill you.
You see what I mean.
Posted by Crazy456Rhino 7 months ago
Crazy456Rhino
You know rape isn't just a man forcing himself onto a woman. It can be a man forcing himself onto a man, a woman forcing herself onto a man, or a woman forcing herself onto a woman.
Posted by ConserativeDemocrat 7 months ago
ConserativeDemocrat
What is wrong with you? Seriously, how can you believe rape is ok?

Being raped is an extremely traumatizing event:
http://www.joyfulheartfoundation.org...

You are trying to tell me a woman or a man should just let themselves be raped? Why?

And blaming the victim? Believe it or not, but if a large man holds a smaller woman down and rapes her (Without a condom), do you think she wants it? And what about the potential STDs and pregnancy that can occur?

By your logic, if a woman walks into my school with a gun, and I attack her and get shot, it was my fault. What kind of screwed up morality do you have?
Posted by Mharman 8 months ago
Mharman
Umm... If a man rapes a woman it is his fault.
Posted by BryanMullinsNOCHRISTMAS2 8 months ago
BryanMullinsNOCHRISTMAS2
@TheGhostOfCivilization shoving twenty cookies is irrelevant and shoving more exaggeratedly has nothing to do with rape, it's not just blatantly shoving and pushing, force in rape is without permission and plainly natural
I just gave an example, okay?
You're really foolish to say that just because it is rape you have to feel painful, you know people like you oppress women to feel painful even though they felt good to begin with.
They force women to feel bad, most of those bad feelings are not the rapist's fault, it's the oppressive people (Anti-Rape, Feminist, Parent, or Mysoginistic Friend) that are actually to blame.
It's not against her will if she lets it happen, she's allowing rape with her will, if she fights it though, that's her fault, not the rapist.
Posted by BryanMullinsNOCHRISTMAS2 8 months ago
BryanMullinsNOCHRISTMAS2
@TheGhostLfCivilization if it says error when you post a comment, don't worry, just go back to the debate and see your comment without posting it multiple times.
Posted by TheGhostOfCivilization 8 months ago
TheGhostOfCivilization
That was posted 3 times because I've been having many technical errors with the site recently such as posting these.
Posted by TheGhostOfCivilization 8 months ago
TheGhostOfCivilization
But because it's forced upon them and again their will, because of this they don't enjoy it. Many women who are victims describe being raped as being quite painful. Or yes, it might naturally feel good because it is sex and sex feels good like how you described eating a cookie feels good. Both sex and eating cookies releases dopamine, a feel-good brain chemical. But what if someone were to shove twenty cookies in your mouth at one time and as soon as you somehow chew and swallow them shove twenty more in your mouth? The cookies taste good which you enjoy but it's torture because it's against your will and painful, therefore making it terrible for somebody to do to you.
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Vote Placed by PowerPikachu21 8 months ago
PowerPikachu21
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Reasons for voting decision: The resolution states "Rape is a good thing" and "Guns and Violence have nothing to do with rape". So Pro needs to show both of these to win. Con refutes the first part, saying it can be traumatizing, and is. This goes uncontested by Pro. Arguments to Con, since Pro didn't fulfill the entire resolution.