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Rape investigations and imprisonments shall be stopped for ever.

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Started: 11/2/2014 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Raperights

Pro

Today, the injustice of arresting, charging and prosecuting rapists are as rampant as cockroaches. This mindless phenomenon is thoroughly nonsensical and hateful completely void of any human reason, rationality and compassion. Therefore, it must stop altogether immediately without discrimination. Putting rapists is nothing but a manifestation of hatred and inhumanity of evil society that serves to seek for revenge on a mere human being. Society absolutely benefits nothing from putting another human being on jail in which the jailed human being is deprived of even basic human rights and freedom. The inhumane treatment is not in any manner defensible.

Suppose a man has raped some woman. Before jumping to the vacuous yelling of anger and hatred, let us carefully examine the benefits and losses involved in the process of arresting, prosecuting and imprisoning him. First, the police human resources as well as police budget are significantly wasted in trying to locate and arrest him. We all know that the police are constantly busy with their obligation to deal with real, authentic crimes such as murder, theft, fraud, arson that actually violate one's life or property - the essential characteristics of which are acutely distinguished from incidents of rape. Moreover, the budget, time and manpower is not rather sufficient and is vastly limited for the police to handle these aforementioned categories of crimes. Yet, rape investigations adds pointless tasks to the already lowly-equipped police, resulting in a dire situation in which the police cannot efficiently concentrate on solving the genuine crimes. This in turn brings about a consequence of the police failing to solve more true crimes, directly pointing to the lessened public safety and security.

The court proceedings are another area in which money is wasted on worthless rape cases. The same reasons applied to the police are also applied to the court as well - limited and insufficient manpower, time and budget. Just like the precious police resources are squandered mindlessly on trivial rape cases, the valuable court assets are spent on the complicated proceedings of rape. Courts are already stacked with the proceedings of genuine crimes and therefore cannot afford to examine nugatory rapes. The public, again, becomes the ultimate victim of this nonsensical parade: lessened proceedings and convictions of real crimes degrades the overall safety and security for the public.

Now that we have seen why the police and the court must throw out rape cases, let us look at the individuals.

Contrary to the brainless popular notion, the party that is most victimized in every rape is the rapist. The rapist has to face various maltreatment, wrongs and stigma both in and outside of prison. In prison, the rapist suffers from numerous types of inhumane treatments that deprive him of the most fundamental human rights and freedom altogether. He cannot go outside freely on his own. He cannot eat whatever he wants, whenever he wants to. No basic freedom is granted to this human being, who is as human as you and me.

The victimization of rapists continue persistently outside of the prison. The intolerant, hateful social stigma puts the rapist in a situation where he is left with no viable option to re-integrate into society. Sex offense laws marginalize the human rapists further from the society by indicating that no community would ever welcome them. While the raped females enjoy a ridiculously tremendous amount of privileges such as therapies, counselling, and sometimes even money, rapists are offered no such prizes. It is not hard to see why rapists would just rape again and again, considering that it is the only viable option left for them in this cruel society. Not those rapists want to rape, but it is the unforgivable intolerance and hatred of society that further drives them to rape.

These adversarial effects are equally significant on the families of the rapists. All of a sudden, they have their beloved family member taken into jail under terrible brutality and thrown into the cruel, inhumane eyes of society. They can no longer expect a better future for their sons for it has been forcibly taken away, effectively ending the social life of their son. The families are more gravely damaged when their father is removed inhumanely from society. The sudden loss of the primary breadwinner in the family means that the families are faced with an immediate danger of starving and failure to pay necessary bills - terrible economic turmoils indeed. The identify and self-respect of their children are thoroughly shattered when they are labeled evil labels as "the children of a rapist", causing them significant developmental scars in their psyche usually consisting of a deep-rooted sense of lowered self-esteem and even hatred towards inwards the self or outwards to society. In the end, just like the rapists, their families are slowly and yet effectively, marginalized from the rest of society without any sign of warmth from evil society.

And we also must carefully think of what all these senseless havoc might bring to the raped female. The raped female will not be rendered "un-raped". That is, the fact of her rape in the physical, objective history still remains without any possibility of it being removed or changed. No change in the outcome exists whatsoever. She is still very, very raped, and these turmoils will not reduce the psychological trauma she has to experience from her rape. Some might argue that this may fulfill her wish to revenge in support of rape investigations and convictions. However, only fulfilling the evil revenge wish is never, ever a justifiable reason to cause so much wide and pointless harms to so many people. We as rational human beings must overcome the evil yearning for revenge and must take the solution that reduces potential harms.

Rational and reasonable consideration of rape will inevitably result in the conclusion that rape investigations and convictions are terribly a lose-lose situation for all parties involved. The losses that everybody has to suffer is too disproportionately excessive for some sex, either due to a mistake or of volition.
zombiezbrainz

Con

Screw you. This is the most ridiculous idea I have ever thought of in my life. Have you ever been raped? From this debate, I assume you haven't. You cannot present these sorts of opinions without experiencing these things for yourself.
Without laws preventing these kind of situations, how do you expect people to be able to go outside and feel safe? Imprisonments and laws against rape are done to teach people a lesson and prevent it from happening in the future. We cannot remain ignorant to these happenings.
People are allowed to chose what happens to their own bodies. THIS IS A HUMAN RIGHT.
Next time you want to say things like this get your grammar fixed and see things from an others point of view.
Insensitive swine.
Debate Round No. 1
Raperights

Pro

Please mind your manners.

It is entirely possible to present any position on any matter without having to experience the issue directly and personally. A lot of people who claim or pretend to be against rape are not raped ones themselves, yet they present their position.

By the way, have you been raped yourself then?

Without laws and punishment regarding rape, people can still feel safe. Such safety can be achieved by changing people's thoughts and attitudes towards rape. Now people hold the mindless prejudice and bigotry that causes them to express hatred to rape; with their thoughts and attitudes improved, they can have a welcoming and embracing position regarding rape.

Imprisonments and laws against rape have been proved to have more harms and detrimental effects on the parties involved as well as on society as a whole. It has miserably failed to teach a lesson or provide any deterrence when it comes to human rape. When laws and punishment creates more loss than gain, they should be abolished altogether, just like how slavery was abolished.

No rapist has "chosen" to be imprisoned or be marginalized. None of them has ever "chosen" those things to happen to them. I am glad that you agree with me on the fundamental point against the punishment for rape.
zombiezbrainz

Con

zombiezbrainz forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
Raperights

Pro

The con has forfeited the last round. Judging from the fact that the con has his/her account unavailable, it seems highly unlikely that this debate can go on. I will re-up this debate and hopefully the con's side will not forfeit the next time.
zombiezbrainz

Con

zombiezbrainz forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
Raperights

Pro

Raperights forfeited this round.
zombiezbrainz

Con

zombiezbrainz forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
Raperights

Pro

Raperights forfeited this round.
zombiezbrainz

Con

zombiezbrainz forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Raperights 2 years ago
Raperights
This debate will be start anew. Hopefully it goes on without a forfeiting party this time.
Posted by Raperights 2 years ago
Raperights
@ dhardage,

I am neither an idiot nor a troll. This debate is not at all a satire. Is rape a subject for satire to you?

Also, please mind your manners.
Posted by dhardage 2 years ago
dhardage
You are either an absolute idiot or a troll of the worst stripe. I trust this entire submission is satire or you are a danger to society as a whole.
Posted by Raperights 2 years ago
Raperights
The differences between in men and women reside in the fact that women have the right to receive rape based on their rape fantasy, while men lack such fantasy to establish such right. Scientific studies have repeatedly discovered this fantasy in human females; you can search for them on the web.

Another reason is that women are less likely to refuse to provide a hospitable, welcoming gesture for other people than men. Every time a woman gets raped, it is a great opportunity for her to give pleasure and satisfaction to somebody, particularly someone participates in raping her. This is a clear evidence that a woman takes part in an occasion of charity and volunteerism for another human being, at no cost.

The scenario you bought up is entirely plausible and acceptable. The intent that her rapist may or may not hold is entirely irrelevant whatsoever as soon as the woman has received rape. The essential significant is placed on the fact that a raped female gets euthanized for her own good. This of course should be distributed equally among all women - it is entirely unfair and unjust that some raped females are put eternal peace through euthanasia while some other raped ones are abandoned alive to continuously suffer from misery and trauma. Do you suggest that raped females should be abandoned alive? I cordially ask you to please put aside any misogynistic, sadistic tendency of yours and respect the women's right to be euthanized after their rape.

Once again, it is not murder. It is euthanasia. Please be careful with choosing the correct word.
Posted by UndeniableReality 2 years ago
UndeniableReality
What are the differences between males and females that make it okay to rape females and not males?

I understand the difference between murder and euthanasia. You are missing the point I am making entirely.

Let's say your system, as I understand it, is implemented. Now say you wanted to murder a woman you didn't like. You don't want to be punished for murder, so instead, you rape the woman and then euthanize her. Wouldn't that be acceptable under your system? So haven't you built in a loophole that allows a man to effectively legally end the life of any woman you choose? All you have to do is rape her and then euthanize her instead of murdering her by some other means. Do you understand what I am saying this time?
Posted by Raperights 2 years ago
Raperights
@UndeniableReality

As a male myself, I am indeed against males getting raped, which also means I am against myself getting raped.

As I stated clearly in my last post, it is important that we recognize and respect the differences between male and female. Hence, while it is morally and rationally right to be against the rape of the former, the rape of the latter is indeed OK. This is about acknowledging and respecting women's rights to be raped, a right that does not apply to men. Moreover, the fact that it is wrong to rape males does not ever make it also wrong for females to receive rape.

Murder and euthanasia are two completely different concepts. Please educate yourself on the distinctions between the two.

My position makes it very clear that a rapist as well as members of society hold a moral and ethical obligation to euthanize the female he just finished raping due to the truth that such consequence is in the best interest of the raped female. Based on this, my position further argues that the legislation must codify the euthanization of a raped female.
Posted by UndeniableReality 2 years ago
UndeniableReality
You answered one of the questions and almost answered the others.

Are you okay with being raped?

Also, do you not see that your system effectively legalizes the murder of women, as long as you rape her first and use a method of euthanization to end the life?
Posted by Raperights 2 years ago
Raperights
Because the con's account is not available, at this moment it seems highly likely that the con will forfeit. If the con forfeits the second round, I will re-up this debate for renewal.
Posted by Raperights 2 years ago
Raperights
@cheyennebodie

My mother would not be burying me. And I have already been loved enough by a girl.

Before your daughter can even contemplate about what to do with her rapist or her baby from rape, she will and should be effectively and quickly put into eternal rest by means of considerate euthanasia. You will happily be burying or cremating her. Have fun with it.
Posted by cheyennebodie 2 years ago
cheyennebodie
raper......... Maybe. But your mother would be burying you.Your problem is you are probably too ugly or stupid to get a girl any other way.

My daughter told me if she were ever raped, she would never kill the baby. If anything she would kill the rapist. I would like to see your face if a woman you were about to rape pulled pout a 45 magnum and put it in your face. That would have to be the most frightening thing to see. A frightened woman with a 45.And they are out there.
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