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a.moninque95
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Koopin
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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 8/27/2010 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 2,215 times Debate No: 12843
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a.moninque95

Pro

Hands down, Will Smith is the best rapper ever.
Koopin

Con

I would like to thank my opponent for starting this debate.

My opponent claims that Will smith (1) is a better rapper than anyone else. This is absurd for many reasons. One of the reasons is that my opponent could not possibly go through every single song that has ever been rapped, therefore my opponent can not say that Will is better than everyone.

I would ask that my opponent provide solid evidence in round 2 proving her point. Until then, nothing can more can be said on my part.

Sources:
(1). http://en.wikipedia.org...
Debate Round No. 1
a.moninque95

Pro

I can definitely prove that this is true!
Will Smith has the MOST MEMORABLE verse ever!
You can say Pac, Biggie, or Jay is better but you cant honestly say that the Fresh Prince of Bel Air theme song is not the most known. If you stop a 13 year old walking down the street and ask them to rap the verse to say, Tupacs "Dear Mama" or the Fresh Prince theme song...I think you know which one theyll sing

http://www.lyricsfreak.com...
Koopin

Con

I thank my opponent for posting her next argument.

My opponent' claims that since most thirteen year old girls know Will Smith's songs then that proves that he is best best rapper. This is also very flawed, here is why.

Point 1: In the 1958, a group of boys got together and formed a band. This band later became known as the Beatles. By the mid 1960's, every thirteen year old girl knew the lyrics to most of the beatle's songs. You could ask girls in America, or you could ask girls in England, but still you would get the same response. Sooner or later, this band slowly died down. Today, there is another singer named Justine Bieber. And once again, every 13 year old girl knows his songs. Although I hate to compare the Justine Bieber to the Beatles, the point I am making is clear. The Beatles are more popular, we can't determine who the best is simply by looking at what this generation is talking about right now.

Point 2: Do thirteen year olds rule the choice of popular music? Of course not, but this is what my opponent is implying in her above argument. Using the Beatles and Bieber example again, most thirteen year olds today listen to Justine Bieber and not to a band such as Megadeth. This does not in anyway mean that Justine Bieber is better than Megadeth because Megadeth usually has a more mature audience. We can not base popularity off of one age group. If you let a bunch of five year olds listen to music from "Dora the Explorer" they would enjoy it. But if you let fifty year olds listen to it, they obviously wouldn't.

Point 3: Will Smith's lyrics for the Fresh Prince of Bel-air are not really that great. They tell a story, like most other songs do, but it has no powerful meaning. The Beat is also the same throughout the whole song, and his rapping is in the same tune. I am not saying he is a horrible rapper, I am simply saying that this song is loved more for the show then for his rapping skills. I have provided a video of the "Fresh Prince of Bel-air" song, and a song called "I'll be in the sky" by B.o.B. Please watch both videos. After doing so, it is easy to see that the second video by B.o.B takes more talent then the first one. It tells a meaningful story of how he turned his life around. The Beat changes, and the rhythm is great. This is just one song, out of thousands of other raps out there.

Point 4: A short point, but a necessary one is that Will Smith is not even on the lists of best wrappers ever.

There is so much more that could be said, but obviously it is not necessary. It is easy to see that Will Smith is not the ‘Best rapper ever"

I again thank my opponent for this debate and look forward to her last response.

Sources:
(1). http://answers.yahoo.com...
(2). http://en.wikipedia.org...
(3). http://en.wikipedia.org...
(4). http://www.bobatl.com...
(5). http://www.epinions.com...
(6). http://www.spitefulcritic.com...
Debate Round No. 2
a.moninque95

Pro

a.moninque95 forfeited this round.
Koopin

Con

As expected, my opponent has given up. I know, I know, I am the best debater in the world, and you are so sad this could not go on. This is what is happening to you.

1. You found out that my opponent forfeited.
2. You realize The Amazing Koopin will not be able to continue because of the forfeit.
3. You begin to cry and shake, your world is crashing down.
4. You realize that The Amazing Koopin was nice and filmed a video for you.
5. You watch the video and become happy.
6. YOU VOTE BOMB PRO! ALL 7 POINTS TO THE AMAZING KOOPIN!
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Koopin 6 years ago
Koopin
ha ha.
Posted by m93samman 6 years ago
m93samman
Koopin makes m93samman happy
Posted by Koopin 6 years ago
Koopin
Trust me, I hate Justin Bieber and love the beatles.

But if thou does not forgivith the mighty Koopin, he shall get you with that knife.
Posted by tvellalott 6 years ago
tvellalott
I CANNOT FORGIVE YOU COMPARING THE BEATLES WITH FVCKING JUSTIN BEIBER!!!! DIE DIE DIE DIE DlE DIE DIE!
Posted by Koopin 6 years ago
Koopin
Ha ha.
Posted by Atheism 6 years ago
Atheism
Votebomb for the almighy Koopin!
Posted by Rob1Billion 6 years ago
Rob1Billion
Well he agreed with you initially, but then moninque dropped science on him and he changed his mind lol
Posted by Koopin 6 years ago
Koopin
Lol tBoonePickens, how do you agree with Pro?
Posted by Rob1Billion 6 years ago
Rob1Billion
Sorry Moninque that came out a little more harsh than I intended *innocent smile* :)
Posted by Rob1Billion 6 years ago
Rob1Billion
Oh, and moninque, you are either joking or quite idiotic to even mention Will Smith as the greatest rapper of all time. I just wish you could bring this up in a real-life setting amongst a room full of rap connoisseurs, so they could turn on you and beat you to death with blunt objects.
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