The Instigator
Furyan5
Pro (for)
Winning
6 Points
The Contender
vi_spex
Con (against)
Losing
0 Points

Reality as we see it is merely a subjective visual representation created by our minds.

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Furyan5
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 11/10/2015 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (5)
Comments (38)
Votes (2)

 

Furyan5

Pro

First round acceptance.

Blah blah blah.
vi_spex

Con

so why do we see that same things or cameras film the same
Debate Round No. 1
Furyan5

Pro

Why do studios have more than one camera? Does the image look the same from every camera?
No. Each camera is in a different position so the image is different.
If ten people look at an apple, they might all agree its an apple, but each person sees the apple from a different angle. The image they see is different and nobody can see the image you see.
vi_spex

Con

the image is the same.. you dont see a rock on 1 of them and a flower on the other when filming the same thing

they still see an apple.. are you arguing apples are cars?
Debate Round No. 2
Furyan5

Pro

No. I'm saying a camera aimed at a reporters face will have a different picture than a camera aimed at her butt. But it will still be the same reporter.
vi_spex

Con

then you say nothing
Debate Round No. 3
Furyan5

Pro

Someone standing behind you can see something you can't see. They can see the back of your head. That image exists only in their head. You can't see it.
vi_spex

Con

reality is matter, not mental
Debate Round No. 4
Furyan5

Pro

True, but this debate is not about reality. It's about our perception of reality. The image we see. The apple we see is not the apple we see. It's a picture our mind creates in our head based on photons being reflected off a real apple and striking our retina. Colors are a creation of the mind based on the wavelength of light being reflected by an object. In reality, objects have no color. Not even photons have color. The photons in the visible spectrum are no different than Xrays or Gamma rays. The difference lies in our ability to detect them. It's our minds that create colors. Reality as we see it is an optical illusion and looks nothing like objective reality. Reality still exists even if we can't see it. Ask any blind person. But the image of reality we see, exists only in our mind.
vi_spex

Con

reality is not a perception, you can percieve reality however you like, dosnt change how a rock looks

reality is not subjective.. oppinions are subjective

to pain a picture of an alien i must first have knowledge of how i look
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Furyan5 1 year ago
Furyan5
ha ha ha ha ha ha
Posted by Deb-8-A-Bull 1 year ago
Deb-8-A-Bull
Sorry sorry I get a little carried away sometimes. If it's not imagination land debate it's . Is god real? Or ban abortion. This is exactly why I don't eat sun dried tomatoes. I am giving up this site . It's pointless. I also collect stamps. I'm going back to losing my cash on pokerstars.
Posted by Deb-8-A-Bull 1 year ago
Deb-8-A-Bull
Do you have a child ? Do you share a child with someone. .? Would you remind ya kid he ain't nothing? Did ya think up your fat dog wife? If you do not have everything you ever wanted, you must be feeble minded and lack imagination. Have you ever known someone that's died.? Do you feel the guilt for killing them .
Posted by canis 1 year ago
canis
About what I wrote ?
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
this is really simple..

make something nothing, go ahead
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
life is transformation
Posted by canis 1 year ago
canis
About what ?
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
so you fully admit you are wrong
Posted by canis 1 year ago
canis
As I wrote in my first comment. "We are created by reality.. In the creation we become subjects/subjective..So that "applying color" can become Something else than "applying color"...But in reality, (objective), it is what it can ever bee.
Posted by canis 1 year ago
canis
Yes.
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Vote Placed by Balacafa 1 year ago
Balacafa
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Reasons for voting decision: R1 was acceptance and this one rule was violated.
Vote Placed by ZacGraphics 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro made the logical, and obvious, points, while Con disregarded everything and made very different statemets that were off topic to the debate itself. Grammer to Pro. More Convincing Arguments to Pro. Tie for sourcing, as no sources were used.