The Instigator
studentathletechristian8
Pro (for)
Losing
32 Points
The Contender
ReganFan
Con (against)
Winning
40 Points

ReganFan is a failure on this website.

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Post Voting Period
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after 13 votes the winner is...
ReganFan
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 10/24/2009 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 2,414 times Debate No: 9820
Debate Rounds (3)
Comments (19)
Votes (13)

 

studentathletechristian8

Pro

I affirm the resolution, "ReganFan is a failure on this website."

I am creating this debate topic in response to ReganFan's debate, displayed here:
http://www.debate.org...

Definitions:

ReganFan- the user known as ReganFan on this site.
http://www.debate.org...

failure- a person or thing that proves unsuccessful.

this website- www.debate.org.

ReganFan is a failure on this website. He has been in over twenty-five debates, and has failed to win any of them. On the forums, he has created uselss threads and has turned into a troll. Here are several examples:

http://www.debate.org...
http://www.debate.org...

That is all for the argumentation. I thank my opponent, the readers, and await a rebuttal.
ReganFan

Con

I would like to point out my opponents failure to provide a complete definition of the word "failure". Allow me to contribute to the definition:
Failure - To not achieve a particular goal (http://www.google.ca...)

Now to determine whether or not I am a failure one must understand my end goal or the reasoning behind my behavior on Debate.org:

My end goal was to be so radically ignorant and to the right that I would make even the most hard-boiled and uninformed conservative on this site look very astute and moderate. Seeing as my intent was not to be a successful debater it makes my opponent's statement that I am a failure due to the fact that I have not won any debates irrelevant to this debate. This all adds up to the conclusion that I am in fact not a failure.

Note: My opponent made a small error in R1, he stated "ReganFan is a failure on this website. He has been in over twenty-five debates, and has failed to win any of them. On the forums, he has created uselss threads and has turned into a troll. Here are several examples:" however he provided two links to the same thread post

I would like to thank my opponent and the readers at this point. Thank You.
Debate Round No. 1
studentathletechristian8

Pro

ReganFan's entire argument is based off his own definition of the world "failure." I provided a definition of the word "failure" in round one, and that was not meant to be changed. My definitions hold water above my opponent's definition, for I presented the definitions first and used them as a guideline for the debate.

Therefore, ReganFan's entire argument is pointless and irrevelant. He still has not refuted my argumentation, as I proved that ReganFan is a failure not only in debating but also on commenting and thread posts.

My apologies for posting the same link twice. Here is another one of ReganFan's threads that failed:

http://www.debate.org...

I thank my opponent and the readers for the debate.
ReganFan

Con

In the light of your ridiculous opposition to the ADDITION I made to your definition, allow me to provide an entirely new one that you neglected to provide:

Success: an event that accomplishes its intended purpose; opposite of failure
(http://www.google.ca...)

Successful: having succeeded or being marked by a favorable outcome
(http://www.google.ca...=)

My argument therefore is still valid seeing as my opponent has yet to refute it: I have not been unsuccessful because my intention on this website was to be so far-right and ignorant that I make other conservatives look better by comparison.

In R2 the only counter argument my opponent put forth was "He still has not refuted my argumentation, as I proved that ReganFan is a failure not only in debating but also on commenting and thread posts." The problem with this however(besides the fact that it was a very blatant attempt to make the debate about semantics) was that both of his points of evidence do nothing to prove I am a failure on this website.

Thank You.
Debate Round No. 2
studentathletechristian8

Pro

My opponent once again does not argue effectively. I have proved, with my original definition of failure, that ReganFan has been unsuccessful on this website. He has been unsuccessful in debates, and unsuccessful in the forums.

The main argument my opponent brings is that he has been successful because his intention on this website was to be so far Right and ignorant that he makes other conservatives look better by comparison. However, this is not the case. ReganFan's posts and forums have made the perception of conservatives on this website even worse. With ReganFan's slandering, he has made conservatives in general appear vicious, cruel, and ignorant; therefore, making other conservatives look worse. The resolution is affirmed. I thank the readers for the opportunity.
ReganFan

Con

"With ReganFan's slandering, he has made conservatives in general appear vicious, cruel, and ignorant; therefore, making other conservatives look worse."

This is subjective opinion and thus it can not be used to prove either way that i was successful or that I was a failure in my attempts to make conservatives look better. My opponent has failed to uphold his end f the Burden of Proof, and I strongly urge a vote for Con.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by True2GaGa 7 years ago
True2GaGa
his account is closed
Posted by True2GaGa 7 years ago
True2GaGa
WeRiD
Posted by Chrysippus 7 years ago
Chrysippus
Chuckle... I second Charlie's sentiments: Thank you both for keeping this short!

C: Tied. With a topic like this, no pots of boiling oil? No roasting over a slow fire? I'm disappointed...
SP/G: Tied. Nothing really to complain of.
A: Con, shockingly. SAC8, nothing you said explained why pointless posts on pointless forums are unsuccessful. Apparently, RF has been SUPREMELY successful in his goals; they just are counter to those assumed by most users of this site.
S: Tied. All the sources are reliable; in that they take the reader away from this debate. Pick one. Any one.
Posted by ReganFan 7 years ago
ReganFan
Here you go proof I am not running up my own score: http://www.debate.org...
Posted by ReganFan 7 years ago
ReganFan
I assure you i cannot vote.
Posted by Maikuru 7 years ago
Maikuru
sac8, my point was not that you didn't mention Con's debate losses. Your weakness was in assuming such losses immediately qualified him as a failure. Without emphasizing that debates are the primary purpose of the website or perhaps that the resolution implied Con was a failure in at least one area, his defense holds.
Posted by studentathletechristian8 7 years ago
studentathletechristian8
ReganFan, I'm pretty sure you can vote on this website. In some of your debates, I have seen exactly seven points go your way, and about fifty go to the opponent. It does not add up.
Posted by ReganFan 7 years ago
ReganFan
You failed to budge an inch on your definition or accept the definition of success and thus you failed to reach the resolution that I am a failure on this site.
Posted by studentathletechristian8 7 years ago
studentathletechristian8
Maikuru- I mentioned several times about the debating. I don't see your point.
Posted by studentathletechristian8 7 years ago
studentathletechristian8
I have not voted for myself, ReganFan.
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