Religion is Harmful to Modern Society (Late 20th Century to Present)
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Religion is Harmful to Society
It promotes irrational thought. Things like Catastrophizing, Minimization, Grandiosity, Personalization, Magical thinking, Leaps in logic, “All or nothing” thinking, Paranoia and Delusional thinking are all promoted by religion.
These irrational thoughts can often lead to death
A 12 year old Polish girl hung herself believing she could see her dead father again
A 13 year old atheist was kicked out of her home by her Christian parents.
Two children died at the hands of their own parents because they decided to pray for them, rather than seek modern medical care.
An Arizona man killed his own son with an ax because he thought he was a demon.
The recent documentary, "The Cruelty of Creationism" shows how biblical fundalmentalism imprisons the mind.
The Iraq war was pushed by scripture in memos George Bush got from Rumsfeld
Religion holds back science, by denying evolution, holding back stem cell research and discourages vaccinations and the use of condoms to prevent aids.
The Bible condones, rape, slavery and scientific errors
The evidence is overwhelming that religion is harmful to society.
1) It promotes irrational thought.
2) It doesn't teach the theory of evolution.
3) It prevents the use of condoms.
4) It prevents stem-cell research.
5) It holds back science.
First, before I answer these in order, let me make a statement. Are all religions the same? No. That's like saying all people are the same. Therefore, since some people murder, people are bad for society. The same goes with religion. Just because some religions, such as Islam, promote violence, does not mean all religions promote violence.
Now to answer these one by one, in addition to my above logical statement.
1) You have posted a link about irrational thought. You haven't provided a link that proves that religion causes this, you have only stated this. Moreover, you could say that the Nazi's promoted irrational thought too. The Nazis were Germans. Therefore, are Germans bad for society, and do all Germans promote irrational thought?
2) First of all, as it can be clearly understood, "Charles Darwin was the first to formulate a scientific argument for the theory of evolution by means of natural selection.". Should every theory be taught in school?
Moreover, does not teaching evolution really negatively effect society? If so, then explain why we had the industrial revolution, or all the other technological advances in the past when evolution did not exist? Also, as it has been noted in many studies, people have been becoming less smart so to speak, and we are in a day in age when evolution is a popular belief. Would that mean that evolution can be seen as bad to society?
3) Some religions prevent the use of sex altogether. For example Christianity promotes sex within marriage. If anything, religions such as Christianity are great for society because there will be less unplanned pregnancies such as teen pregnancies. Moreover, one can argue condoms are bad for society, because they break, yet promote a falsehood that sex is always safe.
4) So, where in these religious texts from various religions does it even mention stem-cell research? Also, is there absolutely no atheists who are against stem-cell research?
5) How does religion hold back science? What is science? "Science (from Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge") is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe". If anything, religion itself uses science.
Lastly, all of your arguments can be logically refuted. You claim religion causes these things to happen, does every religion ever promote this conduct, or does it vary? The same can be applied to almost anything. I'll list examples:
Guns are harmful for society because all they do is murder people.
Pencils are bad for society because people stab each other with them.
Electricity kills people because sometimes nuclear power plants explode.
Water is bad for society because sometimes water drowns people.
Basically, water is good, we drink it. Do people sometimes die from drowning? Of course. Religion is good, some teach to treat people as themselves and to try to humble themselves, do some religions do the opposite? Of course they do. It's because not all religions are the same.
First off, you left out the fact that I said religion causes harm with DEATH.
I never said all religions were the same, but the are all harmful to a varying degree.
The debate says religion is harmful...not how harmful
1. Believing something without evidence is irrational. Religion promotes faith, which is believing something without evidence.
So, religion promotes irrational thought. There's your link.
2. Should every theory be taught in school? Every SCIENTIFIC theory should be taught in school. Yes.
3. You seriously believe sexually active adults can control their urges to have sex? Talk about gullible.
Teens who try abstinence have a higher pregnancy rate.
http://thinkprogress.org... Condoms aren't the only form of birth control.
4. George W. Bush stopped stem cell research on religious grounds. No atheist would be against stem cell research on religious grounds and what other reason is there to be against it?
5. How does religion hold back science?
The denial of evolution. The denial of the Big Bang. The attempt to teach children that the Earth is 6000 years old. The jailing, torture and killing of past scientists for going against what the Bible teaches.
Just because "it varies" doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Anything can be used for bad or good. Religion is one of them. Just because charities are mostly religious based and some good comes from religion doesn't mean they are not a harm to society.
Also, before claiming it is irrational thinking, you should understand what irrational thinking is "Irrationality is cognition, thinking, talking or acting without inclusion of rationality. It is more specifically described as an action or opinion given through inadequate use of reason, emotional distress, or cognitive deficiency. The term is used, usually pejoratively, to describe thinking and actions that are, or appear to be, less useful, or more illogical than other more rational alternatives. " Under that definition, it is rational thinking.
Almost every religion depends on a spiritual identity for the creation of existence. The rational part of that thinking is that "Something did not come form nothing". It is indeed rational thinking to think there is more to existence than meets the eye.
As I have shown, you have yet to prove it is irrational thinking. Believing in God is a rational thought when you go through the logical process of thinking that it is very unlikely that existence could be so perfectly well tuned without it being planned or designed. Therefore, it is rational thought, according to the definition of irrational thought.
2) What about Heliocentrism? It is a scientific theory, but it is false. Should it be taught in school as well? No. Therefore, you have not proven your point.
3) Thats an interesting point you make. However, our condom argument wasn't focused mainly on teenagers. I digress, I still disagree with you.
If you read the article, it talks about the teenagers basically not listening. The only reason the states with contraceptives had less pregnancies is because they heard about the condoms. They weren't practicing abstinence at all.
So does this mean it is impossible? Of course not. Lets use logic here.
One thousand years ago, would there of been a likely chance for teenagers to be practicing homosexuality? No way, the environment did not permit it. It was extremely frowned upon. The same goes for pregnancy and sex as teenagers.
The current environment and social situation we live in permits these things. It isn't seen as a "rare" scenario. If anything, because of contraceptives, people are more inclined to have sex as teenagers.
My main point is that it is all about the social environment they live in. For example, bikinis. Women used to cover up a ton when they went to the beach, no women would be seen in a bikini a hundred or so years ago. However, it is different now isn't it? That is because our social environment has accepted it.
That is my main point. Religion stopping condom use is not causing massive teen pregnancies, it is the social acceptance of teen sex that is causing it.
4) Because it is immoral. Regardless, you have not proven every atheist is for stem-cell research.
5) Did you ignore the definition of science? I just showed you how religion uses science. Because religions do not teach the theories you believe in, does not make them deny science. Do religions deny that H2O is water? No. That is science fact. Just because they don't believe your theories, does not mean they deny science.
On a side note, not every non-religious person believes in those theories either. There are people who believe in God, who are agnostic, who do not believe in the Big Bang theory, or Evolution.
You don't get it. Almost anything has a harmful component to society. Therefore, for something to be truly harmful to society, the benefits cannot outweigh the damage. Religion causes many good things in society, I have stated a few examples but to add: Humbleness, Kindness, Sharing, Loving, Helping, Empathy, not being vain, not being selfish, not being jealous, not swearing, Obedience to parents, etc, There are many positive messages taught in religion, and I just posted things of the top of my head from Christianity.
So let me give you some things that are harmful to society, and it is why prisons exist : Murders [which Christianity is against], Pedophiles [which Christianity is against], Stealing [which Christianity is against], Extortionists [which Christianity is against], etc.
To conclude, I have refuted every argument you have posted. The only argument, that I can understand someone disagreeing with me on, is the teen pregnancy argument. I appreciate you participating in this debate with me, and I hope your opinion has changed.
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