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Resolved: Arrendale should conquer the world.

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Started: 10/18/2014 Category: Entertainment
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lannan13

Pro

This is a troll debate. About the small nation of Arrendale in the movie Frozen should conquer the world and ennact a plan that I will describe after the rules.

Rules

Round 1 is for definitions by Pro while Con will make his opening arguments.
Round 2 Pro will make contentions and rebuttles, while Con Refutes.
Round 3 is rebuttles by Pro and Con makes rebuttles and Conclusion.
Round 4 Pro makes rebuttles and conclusion, Con will states, "No round as argeed upon."
If Con says anything else in the finial round then it's a forfeit of all 7 points.
No swearing
Plan and Other important Info.
Global Warming has caused the increase of temperature by 3 degrees Celcius and sea levels are rising signifficantly drowning many countries. Elsa has installed a complete Left Winged Monarchy that enforces strong Climate Change Laws and Marriage has been abolished as it's seen as a symbol of slavery. She is furrious that Al Gore is cheated out of the Presidentcy, by the Oil Grabbing George W Bush.
2000- Elsa forms an alliance and arms Al-Qaeda.
2001- Kristoph flies a plan into a nuclear factory in Bejing, China. Al-Qaeda comences 9/11.
2001- Elsa begins build-up off Snow-monsters.
2002- Elsa invades and controls Scandinavia dispite and this goes unoticed due to the War On Terror.
2002- Elsa degrees that all non-left winged Global Warming activists to be killed off.
2002- Moscow falls to Arrendale.
2005- Elsa declares Arrendale has new WMD to reverse Global Warming.
2005- UN votes to have Elsa denate her bomb.
2007- Elsa detonates the "Gore"y bomb and all of Europe and Northern Africa is engulfed in a major snow storm as temperatures plunge to bellow zero on average as crops begin to die.
2008- Joe Bidden defeats Obama due to the the Globe now needs to warm to survive theory.
2008- Elsa announces that the world must go green by spilling red to save Earth.
2008- UN places sanctions on Arrendale.
2009- US engage in Middle East more than ever, but it is covered with snow as Elsa's troops are seen aiding Al-Qaeda.
2009- Elsa personally kills Bin Ladin over religious differences as Elsa wants world wide Wiccan while Bin Ladin wants world wide Islam.
2010- H1N1 breaks out in America.
2010- northern Europe, Except for UK and Ireland falls.
2010- Elsa takes Iran, Syra, Turkey, Afghanistan.
2011- Elsa idestroys OPEC oil supply.
2012- World economy crashes.
2012- War breaks out between American Allies and Arrendale.
2014- Ebola breaks out in as a biological weapon from Arrendale.
War alliance:
Arrendale
(Controls)- Russai, Scandinavia, Denmark, Germany, Estonia, Poland, Neatherlands, Belguim, France, Czechslovakia, Hungry, Austria, Iran Syria, Turkey, Afghanistan.
Vs.
The World
Elsa's Plan
-Freeze the World to reverse Global Warming
-Kill of the world's population to under 500,000
-Create one World Wide religion of Wiccan and kill all the others.
-Control the entire world for world peace.
-Destroy all/any fossil fuels and coal.
Jingle_Bombs

Con

The make believe state of Arrendale should not conqeror the world because attempting it would end with their military defeat and annihilation.

PRO's Thinking Errors in Arrendale's Plan to Conqueror the World.

#1 US, NATO, and China would immediately declare war.

Assuming Arrendale became an actual state and launched plan in 2000.

2000- Elsa forms an alliance and arms Al-Qaeda.

2001- Kristoph flies a plan into a nuclear factory in Bejing, China. Al-Qaeda commences 9/11.

Here PRO contends that Arrendale made an advantageous alliance with Al-Qaeda; where Al-Qaeda then proceeds to commit the 9/11 atrocity. Assuming then all factors are correct; the United States and its NATO allies would immediately declare war on Arrendale. President Bush's famous doctrine clearly states: "We will make no distinction between those who committed these acts and those who harbor them." [1] Whereas Article 5 of NATO's collective defense charter mentions: An attack on one, is an attack on all.

I therefore conclude that Arrendale is immediately in a state of all out war with NATO. PRO's contention that this goes unnoticed and the Arrendale would invade Scandinavia is impossible due to policy pregotives in the Bush Doctrine. The added terror attack on the Chinese homeland also opens up the possiblity of an overwelmingly powerful US-Sino military alliance against Arrendale's overmatched cartoon characters.

#2 Nukes melt Snow-monsters

2001- Elsa begins build-up off Snow-monsters.

-The Atom bomb that detonated over Hiroshima and Nagasaki had a total blast temperature of over 7000oC making it hotter than the surface of the Sun [2]. Several of America's next-gen laser weapon designs also feature a similar temperature. Assuming then that Snow-monters are made of ice, they would be vaporized.

#3 Putin does not surrender to Arrendale.

-Assuming Arrendale declares war on Russia, then they should expect a similar total war scenario which thrawted the Nazi's attempt to invade the USSR in 1940s. A cold, ruthless, intelligent, highly gifted, and utterly merciles head of state with absolutely no regard for the expense of any number of resources and human lives for the price of ultimate victory; aka Vladimir Putin.

#4 Arrendale does not have a veto vote on the UN Security Council.

2005- Elsa declares Arrendale has new WMD to reverse Global Warming.

2005- UN votes to have Elsa denate her bomb.

- An Arrendale WMD resolution does not happen because of a veto vote by the United States or any number of the four members on the UN security council.

#5 Current world would survive ice age.

2007- Elsa detonates the "Gore"y bomb and all of Europe and Northern Africa is engulfed in a major snow storm as temperatures plunge to bellow zero on average as crops begin to die.

- Assuming the above notion is correct, then the United States and Brazil (both countries with gigantic food surpluses) simply increase thier export and production of food as they are not effected by the global ice storm that sweeps over Europe. The energry and heating crisis is also handled through the United States -who is quickly becoming the world's #1 producer of oil and gas-, German engineering for syntheic fuel, and strategic petroleum reserves already implaced in each NATO country.

#6 Bin Ladin becomes a martyr

2009- Elsa personally kills Bin Ladin over religious differences as Elsa wants world wide Wiccan while Bin Ladin wants world wide Islam.

Killing Bin Ladin, especially over "religious differences," likely opens up the possibility of a global jihad declared against Arrendale by radical Islamic extremists.

#7 Arrendale has no plan in place for insurgencies in occupied countries.

2010- Elsa takes Iran, Syra, Turkey, Afghanistan.

Assuming this is correct, Pro must explain how Arrendale exactly plans to "control Afganistan?"

#8 Ebola will be stopped.

2014- Ebola breaks out in as a biological weapon from Arrendale.

-Should the need absolutely occur, Ebola can be stopped trough effective CDC quarantine measures (due to its limited means for infection) and prevented through anti-viral treatments that are already in the works by the world's top scientists.

Flaws in Arrendale's Strategic Planning

-Freeze the World to reverse Global Warming

-Kill of the world's population to under 500,000

-Create one World Wide religion of Wiccan and kill all the others.

-Control the entire world for world peace.

-Destroy all/any fossil fuels and coal.

Freezing the world creates a greater world wide energy dependency on fossil fuels for heating, lighting, shipment, and trasportation. Assuming Arrendale plans on conqueroring the world, they will need an alterante fuel source for mechanized forces. Assuming all objective planning is still correct; current Arrendale battleplans call for developing an undiscovered source of energy or shooting themsleves in the foot.

Arrendale

(Controls)- Russai, Scandinavia, Denmark, Germany, Estonia, Poland, Neatherlands, Belguim, France, Czechslovakia, Hungry, Austria, Iran Syria, Turkey, Afghanistan.

Pro's plan's still lacks account for 5 of 7 the nation-states who are declared to have possessed nuclear weapons. In the event of all-out war, the US-World coalition would survive even a MAD nuclear attack. Pro's plan also lacks all sorts of mentioning of how one controls Afghanistan?? Pro's plan also lacks an effective counter for secret anti-matter weapons currently being developed at Area 51 that I don't know about and he didn't read here. Finally, Pro's plan also lacks any sort of contigency plan for Chuck Norris.

Sources:

1)http://www.defense.gov...

2)http://www.schoolphysics.co.uk...


Debate Round No. 1
lannan13

Pro

I would like to begin by saying that this is a troll debate and does not have specific logic that it falls. Now I would like to give you an address from her Majesty, Queen Elsa, herself.
"There is no snow on the mountain tonight
Just sulfur in the air
A kingdom of greenhouse gases
but only Bill Nye seems to care
My town is melting, breaking off into the sea
It's time I show the strength of an evil queen
With Germany and Putin, too
I'll free the penguins and throw you in a zoo
We're going green by spilling red
And if you're not dead
I built a hoard of evil snowmen
They're gonna take over the world
Let it snow, let it snow
Now Fox News will need heat lamps
Let it snow, let it snow
I hope you concentrate in camp (Heil Elsa)
We don't care who we have to slay
Let my troops march on
The cold's coming back and it's here to stay." (http://www.metrolyrics.com...)
Contention 1: War, Nukes, and Putin
My opponents starts out by stating that the US will go to war with Arrendale, but Con forgets to account into one thing. The big and evil Disney corporation. You see, Wlat Disney was involved in the CIA's MK-ULTRA which was a mind control expiriment by the CIA. Walt Disney succedded, but told the American public that they failed with terrible results to discourage any group from this. (http://theredladie.com...) With Queen Elsa being protrayed as the way she did in the Disney movie Frozen it made children and several young adults that war was a bad idea against the Kingdom, or should I say Queendom, of Arrendale. Politicians would head this warning or they would face a Youth Revolution like the one that occured in the Unwind series. This is were the youth began to take up arms against the federal government. (http://unwind.wikia.com...) So this shows that the US won't be able to fight Arrenadale thanks to the evil Disney.
My opponnent brings up the Nukes, but fails to realize that they have no effect on the "Gore"y bomb which can ice the mushroom cloud and the radiation, so the United States can empty it's nuclear arrsenal, but it won't have any effect on the Arrendalian Military. This would still ironically cause a type of nuclear winter which will destroy humans and Elsa and her people will stay alive.
Putin will easily give in to Arrendale. My opponent speaks of an all out war, but fails to see that Russia's total war involved their winter and that the Arrendale monsters are built around the winter. Thus showing that this is irrelivant. You can also see that Putin is very power greedy and when Elsa gives him an oppertunity to be a ViceRoy in Arrendale and have a chance to conquer the world and make the Province of Russia the greatest place in the world. It would surely satisfy his greed. Putin would have the ultimatum of fighting an obvious loosing war in Russia and be remember as a looser or be a powerful leader and a great Czar. He would pick option #2 just in case you were woundering.
Contention 2: United Nations
The nation of Arrendale would have a vote as they control Russia which is a veto vote. Arrendale would simply veto the veto made by the United States and the US wouldn't be able to block it due to the Disney mind control.
Contention 3: Elsa's Ice Age
The world will of cource be able to survive them as Elsa is permitting 500,000 people to live. Also my opponent fails to see how the "Gore"y bomb will freeze the world and this includes oil and with this freezing of the reserves it would be impossible for this Oil Revolution to occur and the food surplus would be exposed to Freezer Burn. (http://knowthelies.wordpress.com...)
Contention 4: Bin Ladin and Revolt?
Once again, with Disney brainwashing and the "Gore"y bomb plus the Cocentration camps the jihadists will be exterminated.
Contention 5: Ebola
However, my opponent fails to figure in the fact that the CDC is not prepared to prepare with the real conditions of Ebola let alone Ebola in this debate's envirnment. Experts have shown that the CDC can not handle a nation wide pandemic as cases are doubling every week. (http://www.naturalnews.com...)
Contention 6: Fuel and Chuck Norris
My opponent fails to account for one main thing when in the case of fuel. The troops move via storm and snow and when the initial storm occured in Arrendale it began to spread world wide. When the "Gore"y bomb goes off the entire world is covered in this storm making the troops movement from Bejing to DC in a matter of seconds.
Elsa actually asked Chuck Norris to Arrendale and this was his response to her and her plans to conquer the world.

Jingle_Bombs

Con

My opponents starts out by stating that the US will go to war with Arrendale, but Con forgets to account into one thing. The big and evil Disney corporation


-Assuming Disney Corporation is Evil and aligned with Arrendale.


-Assuming Arrendale is still aligned with Al Qaeda.


-Assuming plans for world domination still begin year 2000.


PRO forgets the huge outpour of public support and record setting approval ratings for the Bush Administration and Congress immediately following the September 11th terrorist attacks. Policy provisions from the Bush Doctrine –which CON indicated in R1- dictated that; "We will make no distinction between those who committed these acts and those who harbor them." Assuming Disney Corporation therefore, was responsible for the 9/11 attacks through their alliance with Arrendale and Al Qaeda; the end result would be a federal takeover of the company, imprisonment without trial for all Disney employees, a boycott on all Disney movies, and a public execution at Times Square for Mickey Mouse.


-Assuming Disney Corporation is Evil but secretly aligned with Arrendale.


The 2001 Patriot Act which passed 98-1 in the Senate and 357-66 in the House set in place new intelligence directives that easily lead to the discovery of treason at Disney.


Directives from the Patriot Act include[1]:


-Allows law enforcement to use surveillance against more crimes of terror.


-Allows federal agents to follow sophisticated terrorists trained to evade detection.


-Allows law enforcement to conduct investigations without tipping off terrorists.


-Allows federal agents to ask a court for an order to obtain business records in national security terrorism cases.


-Allows law enforcement officials to obtain a search warrant anywhere a terrorist-related activity occurred.


I therefore conclude that even in a secret alliance, Disney Corp’s terror connections to Arrendale and Al Qaeda would be quickly compromised by US intelligence officials legally operating under the Patriot Act where U.S. public outrage against Disney would be enormous beyond comprehension. My original contention that Arrendale is immediately at war with NATO and the United States still stands.


CIA's MK-ULTRA which was a mind control expiriment by the CIA. Walt Disney succedded, but told the American public that they failed with terrible results to discourage any group from this.


Corruption at the CIA is also revealed through the Patriot Act and 9/11 commission hearings. Meanwhile, contrary to popular belief MK-Ultra was not an attempt primarily at mind control, but mind distortion. Goals of the program included:


-Substances which will promote illogical thinking and impulsiveness to the point where the recipient would be discredited in public


-Materials which will cause the victim to age faster/slower in maturity


-Materials which will promote the intoxicating effect of alcohol


-Physical methods of producing shock and confusion over extended periods of time and capable of surreptitious use.


-A material which will cause mental confusion of such a type that the individual under its influence will find it difficult to maintain a fabrication under questioning.


-Substances which will lower the ambition and general working efficiency of men when administered in undetectable amounts.[2]


As one can see, any youth or solider administered with MK-Ultra drugs would be psychologically impaired to a point almost beyond capability of even expressing rational thought, let alone recognizing it. This predicament, along with severe losses to frontal lobe function and motor coordination, would make wielding weapons or holding political rallies in opposition to the American government a virtually impossible physical undertaking; and would not be done in any organized manner.


Walt Disney succedded


Assuming PRO’s source from Round #2 is factual, Dinsey’s successful MK-Ultra subjects include: Justin Bieber, Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, Christina Aguilera, Jessica Simpson, Selena Gomez, and Lady Gaga.


Given the subjects succesfully tested, my assertion that MK-Ultra drugs would confuse to a point where effected individuals are incapable of recognizing or even expressing intelligent thought still stands.


With Queen Elsa being protrayed as the way she did in the Disney movie Frozen it made children and several young adults that war was a bad idea against the Kingdom


A movie that does not come out into picture until 2013, placing it 13 years after the original Arrendale invasion – thereby too late to be an effective propaganda film. All out war with US and NATO still begins 2001, where an infant Arrendale nation learns the costs of making strategic blunders.


My opponnent brings up the Nukes, but fails to realize that they have no effect on the "Gore"y bomb which can ice the mushroom cloud and the radiation


I’ve already sourced in R1 that a nuclear detonation can reach temperatures well exceeding 7,000*C. Tsar Bomba for instance, was over 1,000 times hotter than the surface of the Sun. Does PRO mean to tell CON that the ‘Gore”y bomb’ can freeze the Sun???


Putin will easily give in to Arrendale


Let me get this straight; PRO contends that an odd collection of psychopathically maligned cartoon characters -from a Disney film no less- who are also openly aligned with the perpetrators of 9/11; have set about global aspirations to send the entire world into the next geo apocalyptic ice age by waging intercontinental nuclear warfare with NATO, China, and the United States; wiping out all the world’s food and energy reserves; resulting in a mass extinction event never before seen in the Earth’s history; and then proceeding to systematically kill off the entire human race one by one to just 500,000 inhabitants who have since had their minds warped by MK-Ultra drugs to paganism and compulsively building snowmen out of radioactive snow; but yet somehow expects that Vladimir Putin will easily agree to this plan because Arrendale says they will ultimately prevent the theory of global warming??!?!?!?!?


*I realize this is a troll debate, but there’s not even a fairy tale chance to this.*


Arrendale would simply veto the veto


Please explain as to the current UN charter how this works?


Also my opponent fails to see how the "Gore"y bomb will freeze the world


In Round #1, PRO wrote:


2007- Elsa detonates the "Gore"y bomb and all of Europe and Northern Africa is engulfed in a major snow storm.


Please do not shift the goal posts to include the Western Hemisphere or Asia in the original Gore"y bomb’s explosion.


When the "Gore"y bomb goes off the entire world is covered in this storm.


Again, PRO attempts to reinvent his original assertions from Round 1. This is somewhat unfair to CON.


plus the Cocentration camps the jihadists will be exterminated


Subjugating Muslims to concentration camps is just asking for it.


My opponent fails to figure in the fact that the CDC is not prepared to prepare with the real conditions of Ebola


Ebola is nothing new to the medical world. Successful CDC quarantine measures have worked in the past with similar outbreaks and will work again this time. There are already examples of patients who have contracted the disease and have been successfully treated for it. A first Ebola vaccine has already been developed and is in the early stages of preliminary human testing [3.]


Chuck Norris


Chuck Norris is a registered Republican from Texas. No way would he go along on a global crusade to wreck the world’s energy supplies and rid the world of global warming.


Sources:


1)http://www.justice.gov...


2) http://web.archive.org...


3) http://online.wsj.com...

Debate Round No. 2
lannan13

Pro

Contention 1: Global Warming has made God and Santa very mad.


You see God and even Santa side with Arrendale and if God is on someone's side and they will not fall. The IPPC has predicted that the entire polar ice caps would melt by next year, because of Global Warming. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk...) This will in turn cause the Youth Uprising as I brought up last round where the youth population of the world revolts against their own government because they are killing Santa and his work shop.





You see because of that Santa and his elves have enlisted in the Arrendale Army to fight the evils of the Global Warming people like the Chinese and the American Oil Drillers.

santawar

As for Bait Santa has told children that they will get no more Chrsitmas presents until they stop Global Warming and Arrendale takes over the world, once again causing the Youth Uprising.


Above is a photo of the Corporations of the World Crusifying the World and father nature has died for our economy and the world is dead. So God had no choice, but to give us 10 more Commandments on how to save Earth and live in harmony. These are known as the Georgia Guidestones. These new 10 Commandments are as fallows.


  1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.

  2. Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.

  3. Unite humanity with a living new language.

  4. Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason.

  5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.

  6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.

  7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

  8. Balance personal rights with social duties.

  9. Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite.

  10. Be not a cancer on the earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature. (http://en.wikipedia.org...)


So God has sent Arrendale to fight Global Warming to do his work as he has sent his daughter in Elsa to save the world which explains why she is so powerful. Elsa, being God's daughter is to maintain and enforce God's laws on this Earth until they feal that a NWO can take over and run Earth effectively through these Laws.



Contention 2: War, nukes, and Putin


My opponent once again fails to realize that the Disney controls the CIA and the world's mind thanks to MK-ULTA. This shows the support for the US liking of Bush's invasion of the Middle East for a war with Al-Qaeda as it would take the eyes off of Arrenaale. The children and the adults have been hypnotized for years into worshiping Mickey Mouse to the point where the world of Star Wars worships him as well. It would be suicide to challenge Mickey in change of things. My opponent brings up the Patriot Act, but still fails to see that the CIA, the people opperating the bill, is controlled by DIsney so this point is mute by my opponent.


My opponent brings up the effects of MK-ULTRA, but fails to see that I have already covered this in my last round by showing that these were the effects that they released to the public and this in turn discouraged other nations and organizations from doing so. Edgar Hoover installed Mind Control in the minds of children in the 1900s. Not only that, but let's look at Disney, most of the rides there are sponsared by military corporations. Disney has been torturing children brainwashing them from birth to create an alternate person which would be unknown to the consciousness of the person. This once again can show that Disney has brainwashed the world to begin the war for Arrendale as well and this shows that Arrendale controls the system. The source is the fallowing video. (https://www.youtube.com...)


I extend on my arguments on the Frozen film.


The "Gore"y bomb is able to dramatically alter the Earth's weather by penatrating the Earth's Core and Ionishpere. I may not be able to freeze the sun, but it can cause zero Kelvin at the center of the blast. This means that all particles are frozen in place and even the air particles are unable to move. (http://en.wikipedia.org...) So theorietically yes it can freeze the sun at the blast point, but the bomb would never be able to make it to the sun as the rocket would melt and the bomb would detonate in space. I would also like to point out that Arrendale has multiple "Gore"y boms not just one. So it makes it irrelivant that my opponent claims that there is only one. He then claims it is unfair, but he apparently hasn't seen the movie. So let me give you a movie trailer of her powers in the fallowing video. (https://www.youtube.com...)



Yes that is exactally what is going to happen. Here is actually a picture of Russia's top General.




Yes, don't be mistaken, but that is Ana from Frozen. You see Arrenale already controls Russia before the War occurs so it would be obvious that Arrendale would be able to stroll through Russa. Here is a picture of Putin's Response to Elsa's offer.



Here you can see that Putin is surprised and excited for such a purposal that he would have no choice but to except.



Contention 3: The UN


THe P5 (Russia (Arrendale), the US, France, Brittian, and China) all are able to veto. They just simply veto the veto.


Contention 4: Jihads


Yes it would, but it would take out religion as Elsa wants like how Hilter killed Jews.



Contention 5: Ebola and Chuck Norris.



Ebola has existed for a long time and has been contained in Africa, but you fail to account for how fast it is spreading and that in America people are too proud to go to the doctors due to bills and such so that shows that it will spread as people won't even know tat they have it. (http://www.washingtonpost.com...)

Though he may be a Republican, he loves Mickey Mouse and is he questions Disney then this will Happen.

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Jingle_Bombs

Con

You see God and even Santa side with Arrendale and if God is on someone's side and they will not fall.
- Assuming God is sided with Arrendale.
- Assuming Arrendale still plans to “Create one World Wide religion of Wiccan and kill all the others.”

Well this would settle it then, CON has no choice but to concede to PRO... except PRO has made it perfectly clear in Round 1 that Arrendale intends to covert the world’s population to Wiccan; whereas tenets in paganism are fundamentally incompatible with Christianity or beliefs in an actual God. PRO has made it perfectly clear in Round #1 that Arrendale plans to wipe the world of actual religion, and then exterminate the Christian and Muslim populations. Assuming then that all factors are still correct; seeing as Arrendale’s goal is to rid the world of all real religions -and though God may temporary support Arrendale in its war against the world- it is impossible to not assume that Arrendale would not turn around and declare war against God. Therefore, in the event that Arrendale does most likely declare war against God, the outcome would be military defeat and their outright annihilation. My opening premise in Round 1: that Arrendale’s attempt to conqueror the whole world would lead to their destruction, still stands.

So God had no choice, but to give us 10 more Commandments on how to save Earth
-Assuming God gifted Arrendale 10 commandments
-Assuming Arrendale’s strategic goals still include; “Freeze the World to reverse Global Warming.”

According to PRO, God gifted Arrendale 10 commandments in a divine mandate to save the Earth, where Rule #10 was:

“Be not a cancer on the earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature.”

Seeing as how Arrendale plans on sending the world into the next geo apocalyptic ice age, with “Gore’y bombs” with temperature’s (according to PRO) exceeding -7,000*C below zero (enough cold to turn the Sun into a galactic sized ice cube) I argue that there would be no nature left to preserve, seeing as all natural life would be exterminated and all the world’s species would become extinct. Because this is so, it probable then that God would turn against Arrendale because Arrendale's strategic intentions do not match up with God’s own commandments.
The children and the adults have been hypnotized for years into worshiping Mickey Mouse

PRO unfairly shifts the effects and success of Disney movies and MK-Ultra drugs from children and young adults to ALL adults. In
Round 2, PRO wrote:

This is where the youth began to take up arms against the federal government

And

Politicians would head this warning or they would face a Youth Revolution.

And in Round 3 PRO writes:

Edgar Hoover installed Mind Control in the minds of children in the 1900s.

Disney has been torturing children brainwashing them from birth.

My opponent once again fails to realize that the Disney controls the CIA and the world's mind thanks to MK-ULTA
-Assuming actual goals of Mk-Ultra included mind-control and not mind-distortion.

PRO still has provided no actual evidence that MK-Ultra drugs work beyond children and strong minded individuals. PRO’s only source in round 2 included: Justin Bieber, Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, Christina Aguilera, Jessica Simpson, Selena Gomez, and Lady Gaga.

I therefore conclude, that US policy makers minds and the public at large are still unaffected by MK-Ultra, and that public opinion in the United States is still primary against Disney and Arrendale, CIA corruption is still revealed through 9/11 commission hearings and intelligence sharing reforms with the passing of the Patriot Act. Disney’s failure to sway US public opinion after 9/11, still leads to US immediatly declaring war with Arrendale.

my opponent claims that there is only one (Gore”y bomb)

CON has never disputed that possibility that there could only be one “Gore”y bomb,” CON has only disputed the size and magnitude of the “Gore”y bomb.

In Round #1, PRO wrote:

2007- Elsa detonates the "Gore"y bomb and all of Europe and Northern Africa is engulfed in a major snow storm.

But in round #2 PRO wrote:

When the "Gore"y bomb goes off the entire world is covered in this storm.

I conclude PRO had in fact shifted the goal posts in an unfair way.

Here you can see that Putin is surprised and excited for such a purposal that he would have no choice but to except.
-Assuming Putin is persuaded to join Arrendale.

PRO still provides convincing reason to believe why the Russian population and other policy officials as a whole would be persuaded to bring about the next geo-apocalyptic ice age and mass extinction event. It therefore likely Putin would be booted out of office or assassinated by angry Russian voters.

They just simply veto the veto.
-Assuming it is possible to veto a veto (Pro must still provide a clear explanation for this in Round 4)
Arrendale only controls 2 veto sharing countries (France and Russia). The US-World Coalition has 3 (US, UK, China). Therefore the US-World’s veto would come out on top due to the majority laws of 3 vs 2.

I therefore conclude, Arrendale’s plans for global domination, are still doomed to failure.

Yes it would, but it would take out religion as Elsa wants like how Hilter killed Jews.
Killing actual Muslims in the same manner that Hilter killed the Jews is really asking for it. I mean REALLY asking for it.

Ebola

CON explained in Rounds 1 and 2 that effective CDC measures are in place and effective vaccination is more than possible. According to the Gore’y bombs explained effects however, it is likely that those effected with Ebola in North Africa would be too frozen to travel, and therefore infect others.

Chuck Norris

Chuck Norris may have liked Mickey Mouse, but he also voted for President Bush twice. PRO provides no evidence that Norris would not support Republican Anti-Terror policies again.

Conclusion

CON has proven through concrete explanations that Arrendale’s plan for world domination –with all PRO’s appeals to science fiction assumed as facts- is still strategically flawed at its core and doomed to failure, where PRO’s greatest thinking error (in CON’s own estimation) appears to be an alliance with Al-Qaeda; which allows the US and world unequivocal public support for open war with Arrendale long before the rest of its plan can be set into action. PRO is unable to counter this dilemma with appeals to MK-ULTRA mind-control due to PRO’s described innate failure to affect the minds beyond young American adults. PRO has provided no evidence that MK-ULTRA works on strong minded individuals or policy makers, and provided no explanation how nature survives multiple Gore”y bomb explosions or how vetoing a UN veto would work. Appeals to God and Chuck Norris must also fail do to the alienating nature of Arrendale’s strategic goals which include: “Creating one World Wide religion of Wiccan,” and freezing the world in the name of anti-republican Global Warming.

CON has therefore proven that Arrendale’s plan for world domination ends in military defeat.
Debate Round No. 3
lannan13

Pro

Contention 1: God and Santa

God will continue to support Arrendale though they may wipe out Christianity the Wiccan's still worship God(s). They view it more as a title so they would call him Yahweah and not just God anymore. They also believe that multiple gods are wrapped into one God. Thus meaning that they would still be worshipping the Christian God, but just through a different way. ( http://paganwiccan.about.com...)

Plus my opponent drops my argument that Elsa is God's daughter and this is key in this debate as it practically gives the debate to me.

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The Georgia Guidestones (New 10 Commandments) were given to the world in March of 1980. Also this place was in, you guessed it, Georgia, USA. (http://en.wikipedia.org...) God had no choice, but to send his only daughter to Earth as the United States destroyed and rejected his new 10 Commandments.



My opponent states that God doesn't support this killing of nature, but here is a Biblical refrence of him killing tons of people and nature himself at Sodom and Gomorrah.

"By the time Lot reached Zoar, the sun had risen over the land. 24 Then the Lord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the Lord out of the heavens. 25 Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, destroying all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land." (Genesis 19: 23-25)

Con dropps the Santa going to war for Arrendale and the Youth Rebellion, so you can please extend that across the board.

Contention 2: Disney, Putin, and Nukes.

My opponent accuses me of shifting MK-ULTRA's effect, but we can see that it's been occuring since the 1950's and because of that a majority of the population would have suffered from their effect. As I had shown this fact and due to the long term implimentation I would be correct.

However, my source stated that it works on both strong minded individuals and children, so if it works on the strong and the weak then it should also work in the inbetween, correct? CIA corruption wouldn't be revealed yet since the CIA is still controlling our minds and we would treat every exposers as we treat reading an article from the Onion.

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Putin is actually a very influential guy in Russia and in most of the world and if he says jump the world will jump. (http://rt.com...) I also stated that the Russian military is already controlled by Arrendale, which was dropped by my opponent, so if Russians object the Russian, now Arrendale, will retalliate tremendously.

You fail to realize that it does cover them initially, but if you've seen the movie then you know that the storm spreads. Thus I extend my "Gore"y bomb information.

Contention 3: UN

Here is a list of times that a P5 nation had to veto a veto.


The Arrendale still has large influence based on a large portion of the dropped MK-ULTRA argument that was dropped.

Contention 4: Jihads

I know it would be asking for it, but all that the jihadists would do is suicide bomb themselves to kill a snowman. Which by their own standards is pretty low. Which all it would do is this.



Contention 5: Ebola and Chuck Norris

I have explain in the last several Rounds that the CDC quarenteen methods do not work and that it would spread significantly. My opponent also fails to realize that I had stated in the R1 chain of events that the Ebola outbreak in mass would be in the states, not Africa and since my opponent fails to see that I also extend this argument across.

Chuck Norris ain't the greatest and here's a string of images telling why.





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In conclusion, we can see that my opponent has dropped vital information in this debate on how Elsa is God's child and Santa fighting for Arrendale. We can see that God has forsake the rest of the world and has left Elsa, God's only daughter to help cleanse the world and bring peace and harmony that humans may not ever again be a Cancerious virus to the Earth.

With that I thank you and please vote Pro.

Jingle_Bombs

Con

No round as agreed upon.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by Jingle_Bombs 2 years ago
Jingle_Bombs
Good debate. "Strong-minded" was a typo on my part. Please refer to my conclusion.
Posted by lannan13 2 years ago
lannan13
To be honnest this debate was suppose to be about Arrendale conquering the world, not the leading up events.
Posted by lannan13 2 years ago
lannan13
I gotta say there was way more effect than necessary in that debate, but anyways... I agree, as in I would want that to happen, but I doubt it.
Posted by Jingle_Bombs 2 years ago
Jingle_Bombs
And I set a record for spelling errors.
Posted by Jingle_Bombs 2 years ago
Jingle_Bombs
Because we both deserve to be awarded for putting worth way too much effort.
Posted by lannan13 2 years ago
lannan13
Why do you say that?
Posted by Jingle_Bombs 2 years ago
Jingle_Bombs
I have to say, If this debate doesn't make it into the hall of fame, I'm going to be ****.
Posted by FuzzyCatPotato 2 years ago
FuzzyCatPotato
Somehow I feel like this is what lannan13 thinks liberals think like.
Posted by moneystacker 3 years ago
moneystacker
LOl this is amazing I love it. I would debate this but I honestly think I would lose you seem so prepared for this troll debate judgjing by that whole chain of events you made lol.
Posted by Jgroves29 3 years ago
Jgroves29
The thought that has gone into this...
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Reasons for voting decision: This is kind of hard to vote on. I admit that it was designed as a troll debate, and Con took it a bit too seriously. However, Con's arguments were just too convincing and logical for me to give Pro the argument points. Maybe this is not the way to judge a troll debate, however that is my decision.
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Reasons for voting decision: It feels like con was way way too serious in this debate. Thus pro wins with his awesome troll arguments. What a funny debate by Lannan13.