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Grumpy
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Koopin
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Resolved: Atheists Shouldn't Observe Religious Holidays

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/9/2009 Category: Religion
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Grumpy

Con

Christmas is just around the corner and every year this question pops up..."why do you, an atheist, celebrate Christmas? Aren't you being a hypocrite?" So I am taking the Con and pose this debate to anyone who is willing to tell me why I should NOT observe Christmas, Easter, St. Patrick's Day, Rosh Hashanah, L. Ron Hubbard's birthday or Halloween. I will start by defining some of the terms that will be referenced:

Atheist: one who believes that there is no deity
http://www.merriam-webster.com...

Religious: 2 : of, relating to, or devoted to religious beliefs or observances
http://www.merriam-webster.com...

Religious Holiday: a day specified for religious observance
http://dictionary.reference.com...

Observe: 3 : to celebrate or solemnize (as a ceremony or festival) in a customary or accepted way
http://www.merriam-webster.com...

Hypocrite: 2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
http://www.merriam-webster.com...

Christmas: 1 : a Christian feast on December 25 or among some Eastern Orthodox Christians on January 7 that commemorates the birth of Christ and is usually observed as a legal holiday.
http://www.merriam-webster.com...

Easter: a feast that commemorates Christ's resurrection and is observed with variations of date due to different calendars on the first Sunday after the paschal full moon
http://www.merriam-webster.com...

St. Patrick's Day: ...an annual feast day which celebrates Saint Patrick (circa AD 385–461), the most commonly recognised of the patron saints of Ireland, and is generally celebrated on 17th of March.
http://en.wikipedia.org...

Rosh Hashanah: ...a Jewish holiday commonly referred to as the "Jewish New Year."
http://en.wikipedia.org...

L. Ron Hubbard's Birthday: The Church of Scientology recognizes March 13, the birthday of founder L. Ron Hubbard, as a religious holiday.
http://altreligion.about.com...

Halloween: is an annual holiday celebrated on October 31. It has roots in the Celtic festival of Samhain and the Christian holy day of All Saints, but is today largely a secular celebration.
http://en.wikipedia.org...

This is not to be a venue for prostelising or for discussing the merits or demerits of any belief system. Keep it clean and on point.
Koopin

Pro

dude, I am sorry. I thought that you were pro. I was tiered when I took this. Go ahead and just say you win.
Debate Round No. 1
Grumpy

Con

Please Ignore this Debate. It will be re-posted as, "Resolved: Atheists Shouldn't Observe Religious Holidays 2"
Koopin

Pro

I like kfc.
Debate Round No. 2
Grumpy

Con

Grumpy forfeited this round.
Koopin

Pro

please ignore this debate.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by nonentity 7 years ago
nonentity
Koopin you should have argued anyway! It's interesting to argue things you don't believe in, if only to get more arguments for your side for later debates with other people :)
Posted by Koopin 7 years ago
Koopin
You can go ahead and post.
Posted by Grumpy 7 years ago
Grumpy
Debate has been re-posted as, "Resolved: Atheists Shouldn't Celebrate Religious Holidays 2"
Posted by Grumpy 7 years ago
Grumpy
Well, as an atheist, I can think of may reasons why an atheist should not be allowed to celebrate religiou holidays. In fact, I am certain that there are countries where it is illegal to participate in religious functions of a certain faith if one is not an adherent of that faith.

But that is up to you. I will re-post this debate and welcome another challenger. Thanks, anyway, Koopin. Maybe another day.
Posted by Alex 7 years ago
Alex
Koopin! If you don't post your first round and let time expire it will kick you from the debate and allow someone else to take it...
Posted by Koopin 7 years ago
Koopin
Yeah, I am sorry but I don't like debating things I disagree with you know? Even though I am a Christian, I believe that there is no reason Atheist should not celebrate holidays.
Posted by Grumpy 7 years ago
Grumpy
Koopin:

I understand your error but I really hate to win a debate on that basis. In fact, I am sure it would simply come out a draw. However.....

I have theory that one really cannot fully appreciate or understand one's opponent unless you "walk a mile in his shoes." In other words, by taking a Devil's Advocate position and arguing the side opposite of your views on a subject, you might gain a much greater understanding of your opponent's position AND a greater understanding of your own.

If you should decide to take this approach, do the research and formulate your arguments, you might be surprised at what you can do. Anytime a person enters a debate, formal or not, with a predetermined set of "values," (otherwise termed a "closed mind"), that person is denying himself the opportunity to learn more about their own beliefs as well as the beliefs of others.

I will await your comment before cancelling this debate and reopening it to another challenge.
Posted by Koopin 7 years ago
Koopin
noooooooooooooooooooooo, I thought I was con. :(
Posted by wjmelements 7 years ago
wjmelements
I am interested in hearing CON's case.
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