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TheHitchslap
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Resolved: 'Bieber Fever' should be classified as a mental illness like Schizophrenia

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Started: 6/2/2013 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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imabench

Pro

Pretty straightforward, first round acceptance only
TheHitchslap

Con

http://www.youtube.com...

I got a feeling I'm in for an @$$ whooping of a life time, but alright!
Debate Round No. 1
imabench

Pro

First off, lets define a mental illness:

"A mental illness is a medical condition that disrupts a person's thinking, feeling, mood, ability to relate to others and daily functioning."
http://www.nami.org...

Bieber Fever as defined by UrbanDictionary is: "The act, or disease of being litterally obsessed with justin bieber. Most commonly found in girls, but occasionally a guy or two"
http://www.urbandictionary.com...

Symptoms of Bieber Fever that imply it is a mental illness:

- Bieber fever causes people to be a lot dumber and more obsessive, aka disrupting a persons thinking
- Bieber fever causes people to feel super crazy when 'Bieber' or anything about him is mentioned, causing mood swings and such
- Bieber fever causes people to be alienated from the rest of society and their own friends, meaning it affects how people function on a daily basis.
- Bieber fever causes people to have a nervous breakdown when his name is mentioned on TV
- Bieber fever causes people to stalk his every move on facebook, twitter, other social network sites

These are the most well known symptoms of having Bieber Fever, all of which disrupts and damages a person's ability to act normal and behave normally. Therefore, Bieber Fever should be classified as a mental illness like Schizophrenia

:D
TheHitchslap

Con

I concede to the definition of "Beiber Fever"
however, at the same token, we can define a physical illness as:

A disease [or] an abnormal condition that affects the body of an organism. It is often construed as a medical condition associated with specificsymptoms and signs

From: http://en.wikipedia.org...

My opponent cannot tell the difference between a medical condition and that of a physical one. Some physical conditions may affect the persons cognition.

With that, I have fulfilled my BOP, we cannot tell if Beiber Fever actually is a mental issue, or a physical one!
Debate Round No. 2
imabench

Pro

Alright, we both agree that Bieber fever is indeed a disease and that those who have Bieber fever should be put into camps so they can concentrate on living normal lives. (We can call them 'concentration camps')

"My opponent cannot tell the difference between a medical condition and that of a physical one. Some physical conditions may affect the persons cognition."

Excuse me I know very well what the difference is between a mental condition and a physical one! A mental condition is something that affects a persons brain and behavior while a physical condition is something you can quickly point out and observe, like a lost limb.

Bieber Fever is clearly a mental condition because you cannot tell who is or isnt a fan of Justin Bieber just by looking at them. The ills of Bieber Fever mentioned in the last round all relate to ones mental capabilities, not their physical ones. Nervous breakdowns, stalking, obsession, mental retardation, etc are all mental conditions which therefore makes Bieber fever a mental illness..... Like Schizophrenia!

TheHitchslap

Con

Concluding Remarks:

Physical Vs Mental Illness:
If a physical illness is observable does this mean something not observable by the naked eye -- such as cancer shall we say -- automatically default into a "mental" illness? That notion is absurd, not all physcial illnesses are actually observable or evident. Same thing with a mental conditon; we can never actually tell if someone is suffering from a mental issue or not, we can only go by what they describe to us as their symptoms and conclude what they may have at that time. Thus my opponents argument is null-and-void.

Even if we actually do show for a fact someone has a mental issue, how do we even know it is not caused by a physical one? For instance, someone who has too much morophine (a physical drug) may cause a hallucination (mental) does this equate to a mental issue? The answer is clearly no. Someone who has a taste in a particular artist or music -- no matter how aweful it may be -- does not equate to a mental deficency of any kind.

With that being said, my opponent never actually defines a physical disease from a mental one, or for that matter as previously noted a mental disease from a disease of any kind.

If that is the case, and we cannot tell if someone hasd a physical issue or mental issue, and the question here is more about what type of illness is "Beiber Fever" to establish if it should be a mental or physical deficency. If someone suffers from Beiber Fever, whats to say their ears are working properly?

And with that argument, I conclude my statement.

VOTE FOR ME!
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by A.WitherspoonVI 3 years ago
A.WitherspoonVI
Lets go imabench, woot!
Posted by A.WitherspoonVI 3 years ago
A.WitherspoonVI
Lets go imabench, woot!
Posted by Ragnar 3 years ago
Ragnar
Probably spill over arguments, which would have gone past the character limit to another debate.
Posted by YYW 3 years ago
YYW
Wow, Bench... you must really hate the Biebz.
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Vote Placed by 1Historygenius 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: CVB Juris for arguments and conduct. He never made a good RFD. Wikipedia has been proven to be an OK source and Youtube was only an introduction video. Swearing was too.
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Reasons for voting decision: In differential diagnosis, physical causes must be ruled out before mental diagnoses are considered -which is problematic because most of PRO's symptoms could be presumably traced to physiological sources. As CON more or less noted that, he wins.
Vote Placed by F-16_Fighting_Falcon 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: This vote is odd because I agree with the Pro side after the debate. However, I agree because I came to the conclusion on my own: it is both a mental and a physical condition. Pro never argues this though. As for the actual debate, Con shows that just because something isn't a physical condition, it shouldn't default to mental. He proves his case by pointing out hallucinations as an example.
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Reasons for voting decision: This was hard, because I thought Con made a really good point about Bieber Fever being a physical illness. However, Pro backed up why it was a mental illness (namely "obsession" as a component of a mental state) while Con did not directly rebut Pro's points, nor did he offer reasons for Bieber Fever being physical. This is difficult to judge because Pro did define Bieber Fever as a disease, and Con showed that diseases are physical. Despite this, I can excuse that as poor wording since he provided a link with more definitions, and let the "obsession" part of the definition take precedence.
Vote Placed by Juris_Naturalis 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Con swore and used wiki and youtube.
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Reasons for voting decision: Cons analysis as to why Beiber Fever is potentially a physical illness was weak, pro made it clear in his opening arg why it fell under the `mental`category
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Reasons for voting decision: Another debate over how much a celebrity sucks... Sources were too few to weight heavily in favor of either side. Argument: Pro had a high BoP to classify a type of "fever" as a mental illness, next to (but separate from) Schizophrenia. Con called enough question on it, that I'd like testing to be done... BTW, the camps comment did make me break out laughing.
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Reasons for voting decision: This was a fun little debate. Con's argument was essentially that Bieber fever might be a physical illness and not a mental one, however he failed to show why this is most likely or give reason as to why it couldnt possibly be a mental problem. As such, Pros reasons for why its a mental illness have gone mostly uncontended. As such, im giving pro the win.