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Resolved: Ironman is a better superhero than Superman

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Started: 6/4/2012 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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ScarletGhost4396

Con

A fun debate is cool too. First round acceptance.
FlameofPrometheus

Pro

I accept. I presume you will be arguing for super man and I shall be arguing for iron man.
Can't wait
Debate Round No. 1
ScarletGhost4396

Con

Before continuing in this debate, I would like to define the following key terms from the resolution:

Superman: A fictional comic book superhero appearing in publication by DC Comics, widely considered to be an American icon.

Ironman: A fictional character, a superhero in the Marvel Comics Universe

Better: More attractive, favorable, or commendable; more advantageous or effective, improved in accuracy or performance.

From these definitions, I can make the following observations for the debate:

Observation 1: The analysis of this debate according to the definitions of the resolution is mainly between character-to-character. Because the resolution does not specify as to which way to analyze the character, it's essentially a broad debate analyzing the characters' entirety. Therefore, the debate must focus on the entirety of the character.

Observation 2: To add alongside Observation 1, we must keep in mind that the characters are fictional within literature. Therefore, a subjective analysis on the character must be included in order to have a strong debate as well.
And now, to my debate...

Contention 1: Superman is a better persona than Ironman.
When making an analysis of these two characters, we must look at what they are when they have their cape on and off; what personality traits and symbolisms do these two characters represent is the essential question. Superman, because he is more symbolically significant and humbler than Ironman as well as more connected to the audience,is a better character. This makes him a better character because he is so ingrained in American culture than Ironman.
Sub 1a: Superman is more symbolically significant
What most notably represents Superman is that he is more than just a common superhero (in contrast to Ironman). He is syof the intended image and what the outcome of it has been. Since his conception during the 1930s, Superman was the helping hand for those less fortunate during the Great Depression, later becoming the face of justice when he began to fight against the forces of Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany. Since then, Superman has become the incarnate of the good American mbolically significant as an image of American idealisms and has been analyzed as a representation of a Christly figure. When making an analysis on the subjective level, we can clearly see that Superman conquers this realm because idealism that the country was meant to stand for: peace and justice, in addition to being a Christly figure. The following evidence upholds my analysis:

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Sub 1b: Superman has a more appropriate personality
When we go beyond the cape and analyze the personalities of the individual characters, we realize that Superman is not just a Big Blue Boy Scout when he wears the costume. Superman has a much stronger moral compass when it comes to the behaviors when he's outside the public eye, which is a much better role model for children than Ironman, who is depicted to be a millionaire playboy who ostentatiously displays his image as a superhero. Ironman is every negative image of masculity and American culture--the idea that money is the one thing that matters and that women are just playdolls. Superman is simply the common hardworking American only having eyes for one woman despite his attractive looks and his status as a protector of a city, which he does not flaunt. Superman is a better role model for America. He's the image of what the common man needs to be and what future generations need to become, in contrast to a man who flaunts money and fame and goes after every woman that he finds attractive.
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Contention 2: Superman is a better superhero
Of course, in addition to analyzing the actual character of the two men in question for this debate, we must also analyze their conditions of being superheroes, and as we can see, Superman clearly takes this one as well because of his stronger efficiency, fewer disadvantages, and stronger superabilities.

Sub 2a: Superman is a more efficient superhero
Both superheroes are known to have been saviors of the world in previous media. However, because Superman requires fewer resources to do the same thing that Ironman does, this makes Superman the more efficient superhero. Ironman requires a heavy amount of resources, including repairs for his suit, money to pay for all of it, tests for his suit, etc. Not only does this heavy reliance on resources make him less efficient, it opens doors for him to be more vulnerable because there are so many ways to debilitate him. Superman is just as virtually indestructable as Ironman without the requirement of such a suit, has his powers on his own, and despite the element of Kryptonite and some others to oppose him, the ability of coming to acquisition to such elements of weakness for Superman are questionable...and Superman still is able to save the world just as much as Ironman. If anything is required for Superman, he has the JLA for assistance. To get to the bottom line: it's much harder to put down Superman than Ironman.
Sub 2b: Superman has better superabilities than Ironman
Superman has many of the same abilities that Ironman has with the exception of only a few weapons, and while most of Ironman's weapons are mainly made for attacks, Superman has enough of his own powers for attacks and useful abilities for the detection of crime and aid of people, including x-ray vision, superhearing, microscopic vision, etc. (For example, in an episode of Static Shock where Superman was a "guest character," he used x-ray vision to check for broken bones on a victim).
FlameofPrometheus

Pro

Due to unforseen circumstances I will not be able to continue this debate.
When im off restriction i hope we may resume.
I should be able to re do this debate in 10 days.
I hope we may continue tyhis once my restriction is lifted
Debate Round No. 2
ScarletGhost4396

Con

Alrighty then. Just ignore this debate for now then.
FlameofPrometheus

Pro

FlameofPrometheus forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
ScarletGhost4396

Con

ScarletGhost4396 forfeited this round.
FlameofPrometheus

Pro

FlameofPrometheus forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
ScarletGhost4396

Con

This debate should be completely ignored, and no votes should be made whatsoever.
FlameofPrometheus

Pro

FlameofPrometheus forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by AlwaysMoreThanYou 5 years ago
AlwaysMoreThanYou
I just saw this debate and I thought the title was Resolved: Innomen is a better superhero than Superman.
Posted by TheMrkanyewest01 5 years ago
TheMrkanyewest01
man,superman is the bomb that's it i mean the dude came back from the dead when doomsday killed him.
Posted by ScarletGhost4396 5 years ago
ScarletGhost4396
You think I would go for PRO? lol
Posted by Maikuru 5 years ago
Maikuru
Damn it, why are you Con?!
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Vote Placed by vmpire321 5 years ago
vmpire321
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