The Instigator
ScarletGhost4396
Con (against)
Winning
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The Contender
ryan_thomas
Pro (for)
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Resolved: Maintaining the illegal status of same-sex marriage is socially better.

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ScarletGhost4396
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 8/14/2011 Category: Politics
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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ScarletGhost4396

Con

This round of the debate is simply for the acceptance of the debate. The next four rounds will be for the actual argumentation.
ryan_thomas

Pro

I accept.
Debate Round No. 1
ScarletGhost4396

Con

I thank my opponent for accepting my debate, and I will be arguing for the CON side in this resolution. Before continuing, I would like to define the following key terms from the resolution:

socially: with respect to society

better: improved in health or mental attitude; more attractive, favorable, or commendable; more advantageous or effective.

Now, for my arguments in this debate.

Contention 1: Legalization of same-sex marriage aids to the community.
Legalization of same-sex marriage has shown to have objective benefits from
Sub 1a: Same-sex marriage betters the conditions of gays.
New evidence shows us that the legalization of same-sex marriage can actually lead to improved health within the homosexual community because of the increase of tolerence that comes from the result of the legalization. Intolerance of homosexuals is the main contributer to the negative statistics we see in the homosexual population, and by reducing these statistics, we would indeed by bettering society.
http://www.sciencedaily.com...
"HIV, AIDS, and Young Gay Men"-- Avert;http://www.avert.org.........#
"The development of support networks for families plays an important role in increasing acceptance. Feeling accepted and supported as a young gay man is very important in terms of self-acceptance and self-esteem. Having high self-esteem among young gay men has been shown to have a positive impact on confidence about negotiating sexual relationships and practising safer sex. Permissive laws which equalise the rights of gay men with others in the population can help normalise sexual differences and restrictive laws can be widened to make sure that discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation is treated as are other forms of discrimination."
"Gay Teens Turning to Drugs and Alcohol."-- Teen Drug Abuse, 2011 http://www.teen-drug-abuse.org.........
"A study by Dr. Michael P. Marshal of the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center revealed that LGBT teens are 190 percent more likely to use drugs and alcohol than are heterosexual teens, and that the usage rate is even higher among certain subgroups...
Marshal, whose team analyzed data that had been collected during 18 studies between 1994 and 2006, attributed the spike in drug and alcohol use among LGBT teens to the considerable societal pressures faced by the members of this demographic group. “Homophobia, discrimination and victimization are largely what are responsible for these substance use disparities in young gay people,” Marshal said in a March 25, 2008 press release that was posted on the Addiction website. “History shows that when marginalized groups are oppressed and do not have equal opportunities and equal rights, they suffer. Our results show that gay youth are clearly no exception.”"

Sub 1b: Legalization of same-sex marriage is economically beneficial
Alongside the betterment of the homosexual counterpart of society is the betterment of the economic status of the society as a whole, meaning that the legalization of same-sex marriage would be beneficial to the community as a whole.

http://www3.law.ucla.edu...
http://www3.law.ucla.edu...

Contention 2: Same-Sex Marriage Legalization Promotes Equality
There is reconginition of members of same-sex in unity at some level by the government, and because of this, it is the obligation of the government to create equality, which in turns makes the society better. These alternative recognitions are unjust because they do not provide all of the same benefits as traditional marriage does.

Such an example is civil unions:
http://www.glad.org...
ryan_thomas

Pro

ryan_thomas forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
ScarletGhost4396

Con

My opponent has forfeited this round, meaning that my entire case is extended across the flow. I sincerely hope that my opponentis alright in his personal life since he has forfeited. I'll await my opponent's case in order to be able to make a rebuttal of any sort.
ryan_thomas

Pro

ryan_thomas forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
ScarletGhost4396

Con

My opponent has forfeited again. Extend any arguments the CON has made.
ryan_thomas

Pro

ryan_thomas forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
ScarletGhost4396

Con

Extend all arguments across the flow and vote CON.
ryan_thomas

Pro

ryan_thomas forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Reasons for voting decision: Close one.
Vote Placed by 16kadams 5 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: either scarlet FF's all rounds or her op does. I wish I was that lucky, my RFD= FF
Vote Placed by Ron-Paul 5 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro, again you are lucky.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro presented an incredibly compelling case, his two short words were words of iron. However Con wins because he's cooler than Pro is, so whatever.
Vote Placed by Man-is-good 5 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Forfiet by ryan_thomas.
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Reasons for voting decision: Ff