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Resolved: North Korea poses a more serious threat to United States national security than Iran.

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Started: 11/13/2011 Category: Politics
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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safenation

Pro

This is a fun topic
Round 1- acceptance
Round 2- Cases
Round 3- Rebuttal
Round 4- Summary
Round 5- Final Focus
CAPLlock

Con

Pro says nothing of allies. There will be allies.
Debate Round No. 1
safenation

Pro

I affirm resolved: North Korea poses a more serious threat to United States national security than Iran. We offer the following definitions from Merriam-Webster's. Threat: one that expresses intention to inflict evil, injury, or damage. National security: the requirement to maintain the survival of a nation through the use of economic, military, and political power.
Contention 1: North Korea's greater comparative irrationality makes it a greater threat to national security than Iran. North Korea has a distinct history of aggression when unprovoked. The New York Times of November 2010 compared trying to understand North Korea's seeming random and consistently violent acts to reading tea leaves. The article notes that North Korea is fiercely independent, refuses to engage in any sort of formal diplomacy, and is universally agreed to be an irrational actor in the global arena. The Free Republic wrote in October 2010 that a severe humanitarian crisis is developing in North Korea, especially concerning healthcare, education, and food shortages, because the government's "Songun" policy of military-first has left the civilian population utterly decimated. According to the National Security Agency, North Korea ranks first in percent of GDP used for military expenditures, as about 25% of GDP is spent for military purposes. Comparatively, the US speands 4%, and Iran—just 2%. The March 2002 edition of Humanitarian Exchange Magazine purports that the North Korean government purposefully ignores, if not exacerbates, the humanitarian crisis in order to use it as a negotiation tool for the few times when it does choose to engage in diplomatic talks. According to the National Security Agency, North Korea ranks first in percent of GDP used for military expenditures, as about 25% of GDP is spent for military purposes. Among this expenditure are the Taepodong-2 ballistic missiles, which the Los Angeles Times noted in June 2009 could reach American territory in the Pacific, Alaska, and even Hawaii. The North Korean government orders attacks when unprovoked and allows the people to starve in order to achieve their political agenda. These are clear signs of irrationality, which in stark contrast to Iran's rational behavior leaves American national security vulnerable because it could be attacked at any time without warning or provocation. That the North Korean government has the ability to act upon this irrationality and attack the US at any time with their long range missiles demonstrates the chief reason why they pose a greater threat to American national security than Iran.
Contention 2- China's aid to North Korea allows for the continuation of North Korea's recklessness and irrationality.
The Council on Foreign Relations wrote in October 2010 that China provides North Korea with 90% of the nation's electricity, 80% of its consumer goods, and 45% of its food. The report also added that China is supportive of North Korea because this allows China to deter American dominance within the region, and that American incentives or sanctions provided to North Korea with the intent of ending its nuclear program are often ignored by the Chinese, proving these American efforts futile and allowing North Korea to continue its irrational behavior and its enrichment of nuclear-grade uranium. Furthermore, the 1961 Sino-North Korean Treaty mandates that China will ally itself with and defend North Korea in the event of an armed conflict. As a result, North Korea continues its erratic and maniacal behavior without fear of foreign military intervention to end such lunacy because it knows it has the backing of the largest military in the world. The economic and military aid provided by China to North Korea perpetuate North Korea's erract and unpredictable behavior—which makes it a threat—and is especially important in the continued growth of North Korea's nuclear program, whose existence brings the nation to the forefront of national security threats to the United States. This leads into--
Contention 3: Nuclear weapons are known to exist in North Korea, which is more than can be said about Iran.
The Christian Science Monitor wrote in May 2010 that North Korea is confirmed to have nuclear weapons, and began testing these weapons in 2003. However, that same article notes that Iran definitely does not have nuclear weapons at the current time. According to the Congressional Research Service of December 2009, the nation is believed to be enriching uranium for nuclear energy; the Iranian government has repeatedly insisted that this nuclear energy is for a nuclear powerplant that will supply cheap electricity to the greater Middle Easter region, but Western governments and non-proliferation advocates do not believe this claim. Regardless, the Research Service reiterates the notion that North Korea's nuclear program is universally acknowledged to exist, and admits that concerns over Iran developing a nuclear weapons program are based on speculation and paranoia, especially considering the fact that Iran's nuclear program is believed to have closed down in 2007. While the potential threat of a nuclear Iran could be realized one day, it is plainly obvious that today is not that day. A nation that definitely does have nuclear weapons is clearly a more pressing threat than one that definitely does not; thus, North Korea is a much more hazardous threat to American national security than Iran. Also the united states has containment around Iran but can never achieve this in North Korea.
Thus I urge you to affirm.
CAPLlock

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Debate Round No. 2
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