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The Instigator
Fr0stbit3
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burnbird14
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Resolved: On balance, government employee labor unions have a positive impact on the United State

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Started: 3/21/2010 Category: Politics
Updated: 5 months ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 2,667 times Debate No: 11369
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Fr0stbit3

Con

Resolved: On balance, government employee labor unions have a positive impact on the United States.
1. Failed labor unions will more likely have poor work output after the uprising.

2. Irritated employees from failed labor unions may quit their jobs and be unable to find work, increasing the number of jobless.

3. Government employee unions disrupt government processes. Stable governments are needed for successful countries.

4. Unions REALLY hurt companies, we don't want that for our government.
General Motors or, GM is currently $27 billion in debt. According to Forbes.com $13 billion of this debt was caused by the strong employee labor union. If one single companies employee union can put them this much in debt, imagine what the whole US governments labor union could do to our country.

This is a basic outline of my case, I would like an outline of my opponents case to start off so we know where we are coming from.
burnbird14

Pro

I thank my opponent for making this debate, and though I know little about labor unions and much of my information will come from the research I do, I hope to make a lasting impression in today's round.

My case will consist of the following points:

1) Labor Unions Present a Fair Check on Employers

2) Labor Unions are More Efficient and Organized than Other "Uprisings"

3) The Government Endorses Labor Unions

4) A Good Labor Union Produces Happy Workers

Depending on my opponent's case format, I may or may not have a value and criterion.

Good luck to the both of us.
Debate Round No. 1
Fr0stbit3

Con

Fr0stbit3 forfeited this round.
burnbird14

Pro

My opponent has neglected to post his case, so I will wait yet another round for him to do so. If he does not, then I will forfeit also.
Debate Round No. 2
Fr0stbit3

Con

Fr0stbit3 forfeited this round.
burnbird14

Pro

I forfeit.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by innomen 4 months ago
innomen
This should be a slam dunk in proving the horrendous effect that unions have on our society. Start with the teacher's union and go from there. The enormous debt that each state is in due the the public unions that have demanded unreasonable pensions and pay. This is so filled with examples of how unions have killed industry and the economy, and not to mention our politics. Only 7% of the country work for unions, and yet the politicians cater to them unreasonably. There is nothing wrong with pointing to the auto unions as an example of a union that is hurting our economy, society and politics.
Posted by theLwerd 5 months ago
theLwerd
You'll notice how 2 of the contentions say "failed unions" though the resolution says "on balance." Not to mention that using the motor company unions as an example is a little ridiculous. Those unions suck balls, but they hardly represent unions as a whole. I may or may not take this, but probably not since people here already have a predisposition to hating unions despite not knowing much about them.
Posted by banker 5 months ago
banker
What a exhibit of stupidity..!! Stupidity in its full glory..!
Posted by banker 5 months ago
banker
Are you realy pro union or anti union.?
Posted by infam0us 5 months ago
infam0us
props on using positive resolutions.
Posted by InsertNameHere 5 months ago
InsertNameHere
Collegekitchen, it's called Devil's Advocacy and it's fun. ;) I have it going in a few of my debates.
Posted by collegekitchen7 5 months ago
collegekitchen7
I'm not doing your homework for you.

Google exists.

Also 90% of your case relies on the existence of a union and circumstantial evidence that can't be directly linked to a union.
Posted by Fr0stbit3 5 months ago
Fr0stbit3
If you are could you at least give me some pointers for my case?
Posted by collegekitchen7 5 months ago
collegekitchen7
Why would you challenge me of all people?

I'm extremely anti-union.
Posted by InsertNameHere 5 months ago
InsertNameHere
Oh, I see somebody else has it now. Nice. Well goodluck debating I suppose. ^^
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Vote Placed by innomen 4 months ago
innomen
Fr0stbit3burnbird14Tied
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Vote Placed by iFreeski 5 months ago
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Fr0stbit3burnbird14Tied
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