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Calvincambridge
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Resolved: That "b*tches ain't sh*t but hoes and tricks"

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Started: 8/2/2011 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Voting Period
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OMGJustinBieber

Pro

I will be arguing the affirmative on Dr. Dre's famous proposition "b*tches ain't sh*t but hoes and tricks" as heard in his 1992 album "The Chronic" [1]. The proposition will henceforth be referred to as "Dre's Law." First round is only for acceptance and/or definitional issues, and I accept the burden of proof on this contentious matter.

-Definitions-

B1tch: b1tch   
[bich] Show IPA
–noun
1.
a female dog.
2.
a female of canines generally.
3.Slang .
a malicious, unpleasant, selfish person, especially a woman.
b lewd woman. [2]

For the rest of the definitions I had to consult an alternative source (Urbandictionary.com) to account for the unorthodox phrasing present in Dre's Law.

Hoe:
1. A skank
2. A woman that is too loose in the booty.
3. Woman or man that f*** anything with two legs.
4. A promiscuous person. [3]


The fourth definition most likely encapsulates the concept the best.

Trick:
Term directed more toward females most commonly used for women who play with your head in the sense of acting like they want you one day and hardly noticing you the next [4]

In plain English the proposition loosely states "A malicious, unpleasant woman is nothing but a promiscuous individual and/or "teases."


[1]http://www.cduniverse.com...
[2]http://dictionary.reference.com...;
[3]http://www.urbandictionary.com...;
[4]http://www.urbandictionary.com...;
Calvincambridge

Con

I accept but this is weird a woman starting a debate calling herself a ho and a b****.
Debate Round No. 1
OMGJustinBieber

Pro


Since DDO is not kind to profanities, I have simplified the corresponding terms in the proposition to their first letters. So clearly B would be b****, T is trick, and H is ho (can I say that one?)


I have been wrestling with this resolution for a few days now. I can immediately conclude that Dre’s proposition reflects a subjective judgment that has essentially formed into a component of Dre’s worldwide. Arguably, B containing properties T and H could be said to be part of Dre’s objective reality. Sociologically, this idea has credit. In their 1966 book The Social Construction of Reality authors Berger and Luckmann describe how for socialized individuals objective reality is molded by social facts and institutions: “By ‘successful socialization’ we mean the establishment of a high degree of symmetry between objective and subjective reality” [1]. Additionally, Dre’s conception of B is certainly a social fact given his roots from the poorer, inner cities of Los Angeles and Compton. Philosophical mumbo-jumbo aside, Dre operates directly under this premise in his environment and this subjective judgment has been effectually molded into his worldview.


Any attempt to frame this debate in traditional universal terms will certainly fall flat. Language is a tool we use to convey our sense of reality. Dre has his conception of B, and Con has his. So, are we at a deadlock? Perhaps, but regardless of one’s views on this subject it is true that Dre stated a factually claim that objectively purveys his notion of reality. It is useless for Con to attempt to debunk Dre’s proposition given that his own interpretation is simply his own attempt at defining reality – namely through his own “lense” (genes, upbringing, luck, etc.)


[1] The Social Construction of Reality, p. 129.



Calvincambridge

Con

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Debate Round No. 2
Calvincambridge

Con

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Debate Round No. 3
Calvincambridge

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Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by Man-is-good 6 years ago
Man-is-good
Oh dear!
Posted by RoyLatham 6 years ago
RoyLatham
So when Santa says, "Ho, ho, ho" he really means ...
Posted by feverish 6 years ago
feverish
Right, got it. That was weird though, I'm sure I clicked on that one first and got sent here, or maybe I just got confused.
Posted by OMGJustinBieber 6 years ago
OMGJustinBieber
Pick the other, I got two up.
Posted by feverish 6 years ago
feverish
Damn, just missed this one by moments.
Posted by thett3 6 years ago
thett3
this is gonna be amazing.

by the way...Team Jacob.
Posted by KristophKP 6 years ago
KristophKP
Seriously?
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Vote Placed by InVinoVeritas 5 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: It be tru, homie.
Vote Placed by imabench 5 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: i agree that b*tches aint sh*t but hoes and tricks...
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Reasons for voting decision: Con, go away.
Vote Placed by Man-is-good 6 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Con made no argument