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ilovgoogle
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raviagravat
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Resolved; That major corporations should not give presidential campaign donations

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Started: 3/9/2009 Category: Politics
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
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ilovgoogle

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I base my argument on the following contentions
- Most major corporations are publicly held company's. This means shareholders helped finance these companies, and as shareholders they have very diverse political stances. Why should their money be used to finance a campaign they don't believe in?
-Corporations that give campaign donations expect things in return. They want to have influence in a new administration's policy making. I give the example of Bill Clinton who received numerous donations from drug companies. In return he legalized the ability for drug company's to run ads on television.
raviagravat

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A political campaign is an organized effort which seeks to influence the decision making process within a specific group - http://en.wikipedia.org...
Hence, you can see here that the aim of the presidential campaign is to ‘influence' the public. Why, to vote them into power. That's all the president main aim is, Power not money.
So you can see it's not in the interest what the shareholder's political views are. Just like the president, its view is different. It wants more money as well as power. It's in the interest of the company's political views if you could say that. The company supports the political campaign (This is the major corporations we're talking about).
Remember, most major companies are public as you stated. This means that the company is separate from their shareholders. Kind of like the relationship between a mother and her child. Yes the mother can influence the child, but no matter what she does, no matter what she wants from the child, the child has a mind of its own. Anyway, you can see what I'm saying here that no matter what the share holders think or believe at the end of the day it's the company that decides. And this is defined in the legalities of a public company, that you cannot hold accountable the shareholders or directors for any wrong doing in the company because they'll argue the company forced them to make that decision. But this is a different story.
As for the opponents view and opinion on corporations wanting something in return. As for that mate, that's politics; the dirty world, not all of it but some of it. It's like the saying:
"You scratch my back, and I'll scratch your back"
Mark my words here; the company becomes friends with the president. The fact is that in President Obama's September 2008 campaign he managed to raise $116,457,694 whereas John McCain only managed to raise $5,341,386 REF: http://projects.washingtonpost.com...
Debate Round No. 1
ilovgoogle

Pro

"Remember, most major companies are public as you stated. This means that the company is separate from their shareholders. Kind of like the relationship between a mother and her child. Yes the mother can influence the child, but no matter what she does, no matter what she wants from the child, the child has a mind of its own. Anyway, you can see what I'm saying here that no matter what the share holders think or believe at the end of the day it's the company that decides."

Ok then, what about the employees themselves? You keep referring to company's as one entity making actions, when you need to realize it's more then that. Hundreds and some times thousands of people work for company's. And they themselves, financially support the company, without the employees company's are nothing. So why should their money be used so support one candidate over another?

"As for that mate, that's politics; the dirty world, not all of it but some of it. It's like the saying:
"You scratch my back, and I'll scratch your back""

So does that make it right? Just because that's how things are done, they should continue to be done that way? Rather then try to refute my point you've just provided an "excuse".
raviagravat

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Debate Round No. 2
ilovgoogle

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raviagravat

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