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bethanie.miller
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kxtgrxmm
Con (against)

Resolved: The US should end plan Plan Colombia

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/24/2016 Category: Education
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Debating Period
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bethanie.miller

Pro

"It's not the drugs that make you a drug addict it's the escape from reality"- Anonymous This quote goes with the reason why drugs are bad but why we don't need to help them stop others. For this reason, my partner and I stand in favor of the resolved. Resolved: The United States should end Plan Colombia.
kxtgrxmm

Con

Drugs are a big thing in Columbia. There was originally 700 metric tons of cocaine produced per year in Columbia, before Plan Columbia was a thing. We have an obligation as the United States to help Columbia with this problem. For this reason, my partner and I oppose the resolution. Resolved: The US should end Plan Columbia.
Debate Round No. 1
bethanie.miller

Pro

We stand in favor for the following reasons on to our first evidence:

Plan Colombia: Drug War Is A Fail
Plan Colombia: Washington"s Latest Drug War Failure Ted Galen Carpenter is vice president for defense and foreign-policy studies at the Cato Institute July 27, 2001
https://www.cato.org... November 15 2016
The centerpiece of the Bush administration"s "supply side" campaign against illegal drugs is staunch support for the Colombian government"s "Plan Colombia." But the facts show that the plan is a waste of time and money.
Washington is backing Plan Colombia to the tune of $1.3 billion, primarily in [the]military aid. Green Beret personnel are training several anti-drug battalions, U.S. funds have helped the Colombian military buy Black Hawk helicopters and other hardware, and employees under contract to the State Department[is]fly dangerous aerial spraying missions to eradicate drug crops.
Plan Colombia"s goals are certainly ambitious. Since December, more than 75,000 acres of drug crops have been sprayed with an herbicide. U.S. satellite data suggest that there are about 340,000 acres of coca (the raw material for cocaine) under cultivation throughout the country. Colombian officials express the hope that the eradication campaign will cut that acreage at least 50 percent by 2002.
But evidence has recently emerged that Plan Colombia"s claims of success are erroneous or at least irrelevant. Even as President Andres Pastrana and other leaders boasted of the plan"s achievements, reports were leaking out that a new study, funded by the United Nations, indicated that there were more than 340,000 acres under cultivation.
Even more to the point, previous U.S. estimates of total cocaine production in Colombia-580 tons annually out of total world production of 780 tons-were too low. The new study concluded that Colombia"s actual cocaine production was between 800 and 900 tons per year.

Plan Colombia: A success?
Marcus Sales 2013 masters graduate in Intelligence and Security Studies http://www.colombia-politics.com... November 17, 2016
But production has reduced in more recent years
Yes; analysts attribute this to a switch in focus from aerial eradication campaigns to more intensive, manual eradication. This strategy is more effective than aerial fumigation as it both kills the plant directly, and has the knock on effect of building a more significant government presence on the ground.
Risks are, however, higher as the military are more exposed. FARC and ELN guerrillas work to sabotage efforts, routinely laying mines and IED"s in coca fields. Such dangers may explain why manual eradication has been on a downward trend since 2010, despite its proven success.
Production is also down because of the increase in the presence of the security forces and the fact the guerrilla groups have been pushed back from areas they once controlled.
Statistics compiled by the US and the UN suggest Plan Colombia has been effective in reducing the production and trafficking of cocaine. The discrepancy in figures between the two bodies however, troubles us. To understand the full success a more transparent and detailed methodology for data collection is needed

The failure of plan Colombia
Jens Gould regularly contributes to The New York Times, correspondent for Platts energy publications April 19,2007 http://prospect.org... November 10 2016
Seven years ago, the U.S. government launched a $4.7 billion anti-drug effort in Colombia, which provides more than 90 percent of cocaine that enters the United States. The program's pride and joy is an aggressive aerial spraying campaign to destroy coca, the raw ingredient in cocaine that ends up on American streets. Just three days before I arrived, U.S.-funded airplanes had dumped chemicals on La Balsa crops, and, in some areas, even on the village structures themselves.
But Jorlin Giovanny, one of the some [of] 300 peasants who live there, was already rescuing the seeds from his dead coca plants, methodically chopping centimeter-wide branches on a wooden block with a machete that left a metallic ring in the sultry air. The sun-tanned 27-year-old [they] soaked the cut-up pieces in water and replanted them that very afternoon in tidy rows in the red dirt behind a half-finished house he was helping to build for his mother. "There's no other option," said a calm Giovanni, who was well-accustomed to this post-spraying ritual and expected the seeds to sprout again in a month's time. "What else are we going to do?" Virtually every family in town continues to grow coca, even though they say planes have sprayed their crops at least five times in the past five years.
Coca farming persists in La Balsa because selling the plant remains practically the only way to make a living. In fact, farmers[said] told me the aggressive spraying campaign actually encourages them to continue cultivating the illegal crop because it makes them dependent on coca profits to buy basic food staples. This is because, the planes' toxic herbicides, in addition to hitting coca plants, often kill off less-resistant legal crops such as plantains, cassava, and sugarcane -- the [the] community's main sources of food. Even aside from that risk, producing legal crops is a losing prospect here because there is no infrastructure to make transporting them to the cities cost effective. "So what else can you do to give your little kids something to eat?" asked Uber Buila, who runs a small laboratory near the town's entrance where villagers use gasoline and acid to turn coca leaf into cocaine base, the first stage of cocaine production. "The government should find another method of eradicating coca."
kxtgrxmm

Con

Stop the Zika Virus

The US GLobal Leadership Coalition explain in 2016 that Zika poses a serious health threat to the world. Columbia was one of the hardest-hit countries by the Zika virus. Due to Plan Columbia, there were already monitoring systems in place before any infections were confirmed. Through Peace Columbia, Columbia and the U.S. are working together to find better ways to address infectious diseases. Together, they came up with the Zika surveillance system, which allows them to watch the spread of disease, as well as the impact the disease had on pregnant women and children. This system helped the health officials know more about what they were up against.

Decreased Cocaine Production
According to The White House, the US and Colombia have been working together for the past decade to decrease drug production. From 2001-2010 the potential production capacity was reduced from 700 metric tons to 270 metric tons. With a 61% decrease in the potential production, the United States has also lowered the amount of people using cocaine in adults and children.
Debate Round No. 2
bethanie.miller

Pro

In response toward you first evidence, I looked at the website and there is a map of where they are at and where they like control and Colombia wasn't one of those places yes the US was there but not Colombia. Knowing that Colombia is not one of the 50 states I don't see how that evidence could possibly be true.

Now on to you second argument, there is no qualifications stated in your argument there for I have to believe that all that argument is untrue there for I win this argument atomaticly.
kxtgrxmm

Con

Your first piece of evidence is from 2001, that's 15 years ago, therefore, this piece of evidence should be dropped from the debate because this evidence is no longer true to the current year.

In your second point, you stated that the FARC is working to sabotage the efforts of Plan Columbia, but due to Plan Columbia, the FARC isn't nearly as strong as it has been before.

As i stated before, cocaine, and other drug production, has gone down more than 75% over just a few years. Which drops her whole point that Plan Columbia is a failure.
Debate Round No. 3
bethanie.miller

Pro

You completely dropped my third argument. Therefore it must obviously be true since you're not able to respond so I win that argument too. So far I have heard/seen only one piece of your evidence containing a source and their qualifications. So I have reason to believe that the rest are made up and fake. Judge for these, reason the way I could only see a pro ballet.
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Debate Round No. 4
1 comment has been posted on this debate.
Posted by ImaWin 1 year ago
ImaWin
bethanie.miller did you just copy paste you Public Fourm case?
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