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Resolved: The United States did land men on the moon with the Apollo space program.

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Started: 1/3/2015 Category: Science
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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babbelingtower

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First round is for acceptance only.
dogfood653

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u can never win me u ************* i am so good i change facts using factorisation QUADRATIC FORMULAE
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Posted by babbelingtower 2 years ago
babbelingtower
@Ashburnu

Furthermore, I haven't found any "controversy" over the discovery. The samples used in the Russian study were from Luna 24, which flew in 1976, and the study was conducted two years later, in 1978. 0.1% of the samples' total mass was water, which they observed through the albeit limited spectrometry available to them. Later NASA studies confirmed that there was water in the rocks.

However, it's not really of importance because there is so little water; 0.1% isn't going to support a manned mission or colony on the moon.
Posted by babbelingtower 2 years ago
babbelingtower
@Ashburnu

The Russians never publicized their lunar program until the fall of the Soviet Union, because of its launch failures. They never admitted that Yuri Gagarin did not land with his space capsule, when those were the rules that the United States and Soviet Union agreed to.

@Kreakin

How so?
Posted by Kreakin 2 years ago
Kreakin
Con could easily win with symantics..
Posted by Asburnu 2 years ago
Asburnu
I don't mean the Apollo missions, I mean the Russians in '76. Global science scoffed at them, but they had proof.
Posted by babbelingtower 2 years ago
babbelingtower
@Ashburnu

http://www.scientificamerican.com...

They didn't keep it a secret. Spectrometry technology was really lacking up until very recently- the volcanic beads they've found in the samples that contain water are only a few or one micron across. It was very difficult for geologists to even view them basically until 2008. The concentration of water found in the samples is too low (46 parts per million) to be able to support a moon base or permanent colony.
Posted by Beagle_hugs 2 years ago
Beagle_hugs
Why would anyone argue con on this unless they are (1) scientifically illiterate, or (2) just want to see whether you can offer a convincing rebuttal of stupidity?
Posted by Asburnu 2 years ago
Asburnu
Of this I have no doubt. It is the authenticity of the footage that I question. Also, why keep the presence of water a secret for decades? I digress, off topic. (floggs self with extension cord)
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