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Resolved: Wikileaks is a threat to United States national security.

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/31/2011 Category: Politics
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Winstone

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Once something is on the internet, it is no longer a private matter. It is public and available for everyone to see no matter who or where you are. Wikileaks has posted private government information for anyone in the world to see. We believe this to be a bad thing so my partner and I therefore support the resolution: Wikileaks is a threat to United States national security. According to dictionary.com national security is the protection of the interests of a country. If national security is the protection of the interests of our country, this means protecting the public interest, which is the people's general wellbeing; which leads me to my first contention.

Cont. 1- Wikileaks harms public interests
Our government is a republic and is consequently run by the people. If people believe that something is harmful to them, it becomes a national issue. The general people are concerned about the Wikileaks and every 6 in 10 Americans believe that it harms the public interest. History has shown us that public interest has a huge effect over our society such as on Black Tuesday, the stock market crashed in 1929 and the Vietnam War era. When the general people feel they are in danger it becomes a national security issue and the government needs to treat it as so. Anonymous is a group that has attacked many sites that have spoken out about Wikileaks or stopped business with them. Such attacks have a very real possibility of continuing to escalate.

Cont. 2- Wikileaks causes a crackdown on government security
Because of the leaks, declassification and openness in national security will be slowed. The government will crackdown on what is revealed to the American public. This will be a step in back from where we were headed before the leaks. Joshua Foust says that "we can expect the U.S. government to respond by increasing the security around its data, regardless of classification." This includes a withdrawal from the intelligence community's network which will make the capability to gather and understand information more difficult. Government information will now be harder to come by and even information that is unclassified will be harder to find. This reduces the transparency that we have been working for. By leaking information, it has actually caused a reverse outcome than the one intended.

Cont. 3- Leaks have a bad effect on foreign relations.
Due to the leaks many countries are upset that information they told to someone is now posted on the internet. Many people, in the U.S. and out will now think twice before revealing information to one another. "Fear of publication will only prevent people from voicing frank and honest opinions, assessments and recommendations" (Hurlburt). With this frankness gone, relationships will be damaged. If you can't voice your opinion you're not going to get very far in solving important diplomatic issues. The U.S. will not only be dealing with our own fear but also foreign officials with the same qualms. This will hurt all relations with any foreign country. Just like you having a personal conversation with a close friend and finding out you have been eavesdropped on, foreign and U.S. officials feel that their conversations have been wrongly exposed; results of which can be damaging.

In the end the results of the leaks are threats to national security by taking two steps back from where we were in regards to public interest, government security, and foreign relations. Wikileaks is a threat to national security and many outcomes of these leaks are still to come.
spenserririe

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I will respond to my opponents arguments-
First, his contention one, he states that it harms the public interests. However what we must see is that wikileaks is simply a media source. People with information go to them with the information, wikileaks does not steal it. It is also illogical to state that this is still the fault of wikileaks. If someone wants something to be known, they will find a way, wether through wikileaks or the local newspaper. If i am going to kill someone, the fact that i do not own a gun does not stop me, i simply use a knife.

His contention two states that it causes a crackdown on government security. What we have to realize is that without the crackdown, information will continue to find its way out. This is not wikileaks fault, it is the fault of the government not securing its own documents. It is not the fault of wikileaks that the government cannot secure its own information. If it is truly information that can harm U.S. interests, than it needs to be treated as such.

His third contention says that leaks in general have a bad effect on foreign relations. If the U.S. beleives that its intel sharing with other countries is so important, than why does it allow the info to be published and held unsecurly? According to wikileaks, than later confirmed by the pentagon, wikileaks attempted to contact the pentagon to ask if the documents it was about to release had anything too sensitive to post. The pentagon did not respond. Robert Gates then said that he did not believe that the release threatened U.S. interests.

If information is able to leak out of the governments hands, it is not the fault of wikileaks for publishing it. If you find five bucks on the ground that i had dropped yesterday, its not your fault for spending the money, its mine for dropping it.
Debate Round No. 1
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Posted by Winstone 6 years ago
Winstone
Sorry, I didn't even make it home yesterday. hings are really starting to get busy hahaha
Posted by spenserririe 6 years ago
spenserririe
If i prove that wikileaks is not at fault than they are not a threat. They are simply a messenger of information, not a company that finds its own.
Posted by vrachakonda929 6 years ago
vrachakonda929
it seems that the con is more focused on proving that wikileaks is not at fault for what it has done rather than going ahead and saying that it's not even a national secuity threat. He isn't really clearly coming and attacking the pro by providing a set of assertions that push his own side while at the same time refute the pro's. But maybe its because its still early on in the debate.
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