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Resolved the USFG should Increase social services for ppl in poverty.

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/14/2010 Category: Education
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 2,306 times Debate No: 10845
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PolicyDebater92

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In 2006 the United States Census Bureau reported that persons at the ages of 18 and under have higher rates of poverty than any other age group in the US and have had since 1975. That being said, we are able to see where the problem lies and just who needs to be helped to fix a large portion of it. It is because of that fact that my partner Evan and I stand in firm affirmation of the resolution the states:

Resolved: The United States federal government should substantially increase social services for persons living in poverty in the United States.

Observation 1: Harms

Sub Point A:: Having Children in Poverty not Only Hurts the Individual but also Hurts the U.S.

The Economic Costs of Poverty (americanprogress.org)
Subsequent Effects of Children Growing Up Poor
By Holzer, J. Duncan, and Ludwig, January 24, 2007

But there is also an economic case for reducing child poverty. When children grow up in poverty, they are somewhat more likely than non-poor children to have low earnings as adults, which in turn reflects lower workforce productivity. They are also somewhat more likely to engage in crime and to have poor health later in life. Their reduced productive activity generates a direct loss of goods and services to the U.S. economy.

Sub Point B: Poverty is on Rise
Why Poverty Persists
NBER (National Bureau of Economic Research)
June 2006

Specifically, they find that the unemployment rate, median wages, and wage inequality in the lower half of the wage distribution all are significant determinants of poverty rates. Overall, increasing the unemployment rate by 1 percentage point increases the poverty rate by 0.4 to 0.7 percentage points.

Bureau of Labor Statistics
THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION – AUGUST 2009
Sept 4th 2009

In August, the number of unemployed persons increased by 466,000 to 14.9 million, and the unemployment rate rose by 0.3 percentage point to 9.7 percent. The rate had been little changed in June and July, after increasing 0.4 or 0.5 percentage point in each month from December 2008 through May. Since the recession began in December 2007, the number of unemployed persons has risen by 7.4 Million, and the unemployment rate has grown by 4.8 percentage points.

Sub Point C: U.S. is Experiencing a Shortage of Skilled Laborers

By Teresa Watanabe
April 21, 2008
Los Angeles Times
Shortage of skilled workers looms in U.S.

With baby boomers preparing to retire as the best educated and most skilled workforce in U.S. history, a growing chorus of demographers and labor experts is raising concerns that workers in the nation lack the critical skills needed to replace them.
Observation 2: Inherency
Sub Point A: The cost of day care is too high for families in poverty to meet.
NACCRRA Price of Child Care Report
2008

According to the report, in 2007, the average price of full-time care for an infant in a center was as high as $14,591 a year. For a 4-year-old in a center, parents paid up to $10,787 a year for full-time care. Parents of school-age children paid up to $8,600 a year for part-time care in a center

Sub Point B: College has become too expensive.

National Center for Public Policy and Higher Education
Report says college is too expensive
Dec 5th 2008

A new report from the National Center for Public Policy and Higher Education suggests that soaring college costs threaten to make college unaffordable for the majority of Americans.

College tuition and fees rose 439% from 1982 to 2007 while the median family income rose just 147%, without adjusting for inflation.

Sub Point C: There is a shortage of space for daycare.
The SunTimes
Prescott James, The Daily Graphic
March 2009
Daycare facilities around the country have a shortage of space available for the care of young children. April Krastel is the executive director for the Portage Day Care Centre Inc., and as a childcare professional, she recognizes the shortage of space for children who need care.

The affirmative team proposes the following plan to help the impoverished and decrease the number of families in poverty by addressing the problem at its root source.
The affirmative team will allow for all persons living in poverty to receive free daycare as paid for by the government. In addition, the affirmative plan will allow funding for persons living in poverty to also obtain up to $7,000 for college tuition for as many years as needed in exchange for 500 hours community service hours per year (or 1 and half hours per day.) Should the work not be completed during the college years there is up to a one year grace period to pay back all of the money. In addition, should the student quit college or not pursue the hours needed, the money will become equivalent to that of a loan where they will be required to pay back the money by their own means.

The plan will be funded by adding an additional ten cent tax to every dollar spent on cigarettes, alcohol, and all published pornographic material, (i.e. magazine, movies, etc…) The affirmative team claims the power of FIAT.

Observation3: Solvency
Sub Point A: Education helps countries get out of poverty.
UN Works 2009
http://www.un.org...
Every day, Romsaas Wang sees children die of preventable diseases because their mothers could not read and write. "If you really put effort into education it will influence all the Millennium Development Goals (MDGs). It's more risky not to invest in education because education helps countries get out of poverty."
Sub Point B: Providing Day Care will increase the amount of jobs in the US.
Investing In America's Youngest Children Is Essential for an Effective Stimulus Plan and a Long-Term Boost to Economy
STEVE BARNETT, Jan. 8 2008

Early childhood programs not only will free parents to take new jobs, they can directly contribute in many other ways to the positive effects of a stimulus package. Multipliers for child care are 1.91 for total output (91 cents in additional economic activity on top of each dollar of federal investment) and 1.50 for employment (1 additional job created for every two new jobs created by federal investments in child care).

Sub Point C: People with a College Education are less likely to be in Poverty

2004 American Community Survey

The more education a person has, the less likely they will live in poverty. The poverty rate among people who earn a college degree is much lower than the poverty rate among people with only a high school diploma. And those who earn a high school diploma do much better than those without one.

Advantage One: Early Education helps kids later in life.

Investing In America's Youngest Children Is Essential for an Effective Stimulus Plan and a Long-Term Boost to Economy
STEVE BARNETT, Jan. 8 2008

In addition to improving early learning and development, high-quality early education decreases school failure, increases economic productivity and decreases crime and delinquency.

Advantage Three: Daycare is extremely beneficial for social skill in young children.

The Benefits of Daycare When Starting Kindergarten
Healthvideo.com (NBC Health Network) 2009

Learning how to socialize can be difficult for some children who are used to being with their parents all day long and are not accustomed to sharing or playing with other kids. However, those kids who attend daycare all day long quickly learn what sharing means and that playing with other kids can be a whole lot of fun. As a result these children develop friendships and enjoy spending time with them. This means kids have a social life all their own and appreciate developing these skills and a set of friends they can talk to and play with.
Metz

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1. As per sub-point C, you are arguing that daycares are overcrowded in the Status quo?

2. What happens if students cannot pay back the money within the one year grace period?

3. How will the $7000 dollar grant help people attend college?

4. What are the terminal impacts of the 1AC?

5. Does the plan force people to go to college/accept the money?
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Debate Round No. 5
24 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 1 through 10 records.
Posted by Metz 7 years ago
Metz
Yeah... I mean policy is hard on these sites. I probably would ave lost the voting if I think about it. I was going to go for a Kritik most likely. (my Favorite arguments)
Posted by wjmelements 7 years ago
wjmelements
These debates are always sad. CON wins.
Posted by Metz 7 years ago
Metz
Right but HE gave it rounds for a CX period. And its hard to construct a Neg Strat in Policy if the S.H.I.T.S. and Plan aren't clear.
Posted by J.Kenyon 7 years ago
J.Kenyon
Metz, even though he forfeited, you still have to make some sort of negative case, otherwise his contentions go unrefuted. Forfeiting loses you conduct points, he can still win arguments.
Posted by Metz 7 years ago
Metz
I'll take this. But first is there anything Neg strat you dont want to see?
Posted by J.Kenyon 7 years ago
J.Kenyon
I looove policy....did it this year as a senior and never lost. Sucks that its over....doing persuasive speaking now.
Posted by Nails 7 years ago
Nails
These are the specific social services:

"The affirmative team will allow for all persons living in poverty to receive free daycare as paid for by the government. In addition, the affirmative plan will allow funding for persons living in poverty to also obtain up to $7,000 for college tuition for as many years as needed in exchange for 500 hours community service hours per year (or 1 and half hours per day.) Should the work not be completed during the college years there is up to a one year grace period to pay back all of the money. In addition, should the student quit college or not pursue the hours needed, the money will become equivalent to that of a loan where they will be required to pay back the money by their own means."
Posted by Ore_Ele 7 years ago
Ore_Ele
Just a guess, but services provided by the government at the cost of tax payers.
Posted by Cody_Franklin 7 years ago
Cody_Franklin
Define "social services".
Posted by Cherymenthol 7 years ago
Cherymenthol
I love Extemp and LD... you ahve to think :)

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