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Right or Wrong answers to ethics?

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Started: 1/30/2014 Category: Philosophy
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joness35

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Sha'Terra Jones. Pro- There are no right or wrong answers to ethics.
I truly believe there are no right or wrong answers to ethics. Everyone is morally entitled to their own ethical belief. Everyone should have the right to choose which religion they wish to follow. No one person should be forced to serve a particular God because of what someone else believes in. For example, if someone chooses to believe that there is "No real God", they shouldn't be frowned upon by others who believe that there is a God. Many people can voice their own opinions on ethics and whether there's right or wrong answers to it, but what exactly are ethics? Ethics refers to living up to those well grounded standards of whether something is right or wrong. It also refers to the continuous effort of studying our own moral beliefs and our own moral conducts. For example, many religious people feel that committing a deadly sin is "wrong", while others look at it as a way of life. They wouldn't consider it a right or wrong action, just something that one can be forgiven for. Most religions, of course, demonstrate high standards. Yet, if ethics were confined to religion, then ethics would only apply to religious people . But ethics applies as much to the behavior of the atheist as to that of the devout religious person. Religion can set high ethical standards and can provide intense motivations for ethical behavior. Ethics, however, cannot be confined to religion nor is it the same as religion. Ethics is more of what's considered the "norm". Societies morality is based on the Bible and the Quran. Even though people think it's just a piece of literature by the previous generations, many people really live their lives based off of these two important aspects. Some civilians believe that they should live by the Bible or Quran, while others just believes it's just a book written to inform you. But, who's to say either person is morally right or wrong? No one can truly give the exact definition of what's right or wrong. Everyone is taught different ways of defining right or wrong. For example, people who have gone to a religious school, Catholic as an example, may have been taught the right or wrong way to live their lives, while others will strongly disagree with that. But, again, no one is right or wrong for believing in what they believe in. Many people tend to not get along with or "hang around" with someone who disagrees with the way they choose to live their lives. Yet, everyone is raised differently and are taught certain ways to behave. But, no ones' actions are considered right or wrong. Just because someone does live a certain lifestyle doesn't mean their live is unacceptable. People should have the freedom of choice to choose the lifestyle they want to live, not anyway else. Another great example would be how atheist people live their lives not based off of serving a particular God and how that one God must control his or her life, but it's themselves who make their own rightful religious decisions.
yilmazt

Con

Tuba Yilmaz: CON: There are right or wrong answers in ethic's.
Ethic's depends on how the person view's the world and everything else that's around them. There are many different religious groups in our society. If believing in ethic's were "doing what the society wants," then people need to figure out what society is truly made out of.These group's consist of Christians, Catholics, Muslims, Atheist, etc. There are people who are "ashamed" of their religion so they choose to following what most of the society is following. For example, in high-school there was a Muslim girl who wore the hijab but for some reason she would always say that she was Atheist. Denying your own religion basically means you're just following a certain crowd just because you want to "fit in." You are correct about how people can commit "deadly" sins. A deadly sin can be considered as murdering someone just because you felt like it was the "right" thing. But that doesn't necessarily make it a "right" decision. It may be right to you but to other people it might make you a criminal. A person shouldn't take someone else's life. This life was giving to us by God so it should just be God's decision on whether we should stay alive or not; not another human beings decision. God is the one who gave us life and God should be the only one who can take it away from us! Most of the religion's are connected. We all have a God that we believe in. It might be different considering that our society has many religious beliefs. But at the end we all have that one God that we pray to and think about. Considering Atheist people don't believe in "God" as must as other religions do. But they still believe in something even if it's a little bit. But no religion should have the "power" to decide whether or not the civilian should life. Just because someone believes in the "death penalty" in their religion doesn't give them an opportunity to show it to the society. Civilians need to be considerate about how the world actually "works." We all understand that nothing in life is fair or even morally correct, but sometime's people need to just put a stop to their "own" beliefs. Saying that there are no right or wrong answer's in ethic's is just like saying there are no right or wrong answer's in society. The term "right" can be used in many different way's. To some people it might mean "proper" and to other people it might just mean good. Also the term "wrong" can be correct for a person but incorrect for another. Being ethical is not the same as "doing what everyone says," even though majority of our society is made up of people who like to do what a certain crowd does. Our society is made up of people who just wants to fit into the "group." No one really has their "own" way of things. They're afraid that their way might be judged by a certain group so they just continue on doing that everyone else does. Our society is a just made up of certain "important" people with just a bunch of follower's. People just like to do what the "whole" world is doing.
Debate Round No. 1
joness35

Pro

I agree with your argument about right or wrong answers to ethics to a certain extent. Yes, some people may act out certain behaviors just for the approval from society, but then again, not everyone do it just for the approval. Some may do it just to get a reaction from society, it doesn't necessarily mean that they do it for the approval. We live in a world where everyone does things just to see the reaction from others. No one should be the judge of whether someone's actions are right or wrong. But let's be technical here, who ever created the true definition of whether someone or something was "right" and whether someone or something was "wrong" ? Many of us look at something that's merely "right" as an approval and something that's considered "wrong" as a disapproval. People within the society have different ways of viewing different things. For example, a man could have been raised to believe that to act in a certain way would be considered "right", but as he grows up and explores the world for what it truly is, his mind set on what he was taught was "right" could now be something that he disapproves of and he now considered it to be "wrong". Yet again, who's to say what he firmly believes in is now wrong? Is society now making judgments for his beliefs? There are plenty of unanswered questions in the world, but no one is taking the initiative to "properly" answers to the likings of EVERYONE. Why? Because, everyone has their different way of viewing what's "right" and what's "wrong". A great example could be if someone is labeled as a "murderer" because they chose to take it upon themselves to kill someone. Now it's time to decide on whether or not this individual should get the death penalty and the decision is left in the hands of the society. It's quite obvious that everyone now looks at this man as a horrible person who just enjoys going out killing people and should now pay the price for his "wrongful" actions. Should he receive the death penalty for his actions or should he suffer in prison for the rest of his life being reminded of what he did was wrong? He himself could have clearly thought that what he did wasn't wrong at the moment, when in reality according to society, the actions he chose to take are wrong. A man may judge an act to be right without judging that its consequences will be probably the best possible, only saying that, when he truly judges it to be right, then its consequences will probably be the best possible . But his judgment as to what is objectively right may, not only by a wrong estimate of probable consequences, or by failing to think of an act which he might have thought of, but also by a wrong theory as to what constitutes what he considers rightness. When an individual is put in a certain situation to decide on what actions he or she should take, they just may take into consideration of what others may think of them after talking those actions, but then again on the other hand they just may not care about what others will think because they're choosing to make decisions to satisfy themselves, not others in society. If many people had the mind set of making wise decisions on what made them happy then the words approval and disapproval would be used in a more cautious manner. As I say again, what one person would consider to be "right" just may not be what someone else considers "right" and vice versa for what someone would consider to be "wrong". The law has as a way of making people believe that certain things are mortal and immortal and why is that? Because people give other people the power to control their minds. Having the ability to think outside to the box in certain situations, lead a lot of people to having their own opinions on different things and being able to express it differently than someone who is basically like a robot and is controlled mentally by laws and the society who create them. Just because the law states that something is "right" or "wrong" causes people to not have opinions on what they firmly believe to be correct.
yilmazt

Con

You are correct, but you have to understand that people have different beliefs There is right or wrong in everything in this world. This even includes the laws that are passed. Even though ethic's is the right way certain people might disagree. Even though society might have a different opinion there are still certain laws that tell us what to believe in. Following these certain types of laws makes you ethically right. Our government only takes our opinion on certain laws and then he/she is the only one who is able to pass the law or not. For example the government has allowed same sex marriage. Whether or not majority of the citizens agreed or disagreed the law was passed and the citizens who disagree has to deal with it and try to accept the fact that love is love, your gender isn't the one who decides who to fall in love with, its your heart. Laws are laws and when the law is passed all a person can really do is accept the law. Citizens cannot do anything to change the laws that are already passed. Lets say for example that the laws weren't passed but the government has already decided to put the law into work so it can be passed; what can citizens do about the situation? Nothing really. A certain person's belief's in ethic's is not better than the other persons. All beliefs are based upon the person. Breaking any type of rule is considered "bad." For example: when a household breaks the rules that the elder person put it is considered "wrong." We all have certain rules that we need to follow and listen to, whether or not you agree with these rule's. The government has the power and controls the rules. Us civilians only can have opinion's. Let's say you break a certain law, in your mind you probably thought you were right, but in fact you would be ethically wrong. There is no way around this situation. The government and our parents or even grandparents are the one's who try to help us in making the right decision. Without laws people would go out of their way's. Laws help us to do the right thing. No one's own ethically belief is better than the other persons. What is right is right and what is wrong is just simply wrong. Same thing when it comes down to good and evil. Sometimes certain things are the way they are because they need to be that way but that doesn't make it correct.
Debate Round No. 2
joness35

Pro

When discussing facts about whether or not there are right or wrong answers to ethics, it can become a bit personal. Certain types of ethics involves what should be viewed as good habits, duties that we should follow, and the consequences that will follow afterwards. While other types of ethics focus on controversial issues such as abortion, homosexuality, and or artificial insemination. Some people will disagree on the thought of having an abortion because they may consider that to be a "selfish" act, while others will look at it as a personal action. No one may know the situations people are placed in to make the decisions that they do. For example, a female may choose to get an abortion for health reasons because carrying that fetus could be detrimental to her health and could possibly cause death to herself. Someone who isn't aware of her situation may view her as a female who doesn't want to take care of her responsibility because she made a "mistake". Who is anyone to judge this young lady's decision? In her opinion, the decision she made was right for her at the moment. She has to live with the decision she chose to make without being frowned upon. Yes, she may choose to decide on having children at a later date, but that doesn't necessarily make her decision "wrong" . People shouldn't choose to make judgments about the next person when they know absolutely nothing about that person and the lifestyle they're choosing to live. Meanwhile, the person that's sitting back making judgments about the next person is making some "wrongful" decisions in their life, but would hate to hear what someone else has to say about the decisions they chose to make. It's a positive and mindful decision to stay out of people's personal life and the decisions they choose to make. They're obviously living their life to please themselves, not receive approval from the next person. A very common discussed topic is homosexuality. Many people, mainly including religious people, are against homosexuality because they feel it's mortally "wrong". People who choose to be homosexuals make those decisions to make themselves happy. A few years back, homosexuality was frowned upon with no hesitations. But, now that people are more open about it, it's accepted by many more people. Those who would consider it to be "wrong" are usually going based off of what is perceived in the Holy Bible. It's said to be that those who choose homosexuality are committing one of the few deadly sins. We as humans were created to procreate with the opposite sex. But, what about that one person who doesn't want to procreate and choose to love and care for someone who's of the same sex as them? Why can't they choose to love who they want without being judged? Another common action that is taken is a procedure called artificial insemination where sperm is implanted to a woman's uterus to ensure that she will have a baby. Many people are strongly against it because they may feel that if it's meant for someone to have a baby, they would be able to do it the natural way. But again, who's to judge? If a woman decides that she wants to have a baby either with or without the help of a man she should be able to do so. She shouldn't be frown upon. She still opting to hopefully bring a healthy child into the world and be a parent to that child.
yilmazt

Con

Tuba Ylmaz-CON: There are right or wrong answers in ethics.
That's correct. Abortion can be classified as either a "selfish" act or even a personal act. But in certain religious beliefs it is considered a "wrong" act. In some religions the situation doesn't really matter, they look at the fact that aborting a baby is the same thing as murdering someone. It's still considered as a sin, and in their world you will never be forgiven by god. If a female is having health problems and can't give birth at the moment. Abortion isn't the only way. There are pills and even shots to stop the baby from growing and would help get "rid" of the baby in normal terms. Whether or not the child has health problems taking their own life shouldn't be up to the person itself. We are all god's creations and if God didn't want us to have that baby, God wouldn't have caused the pregnancy to happen. Same thing goes for homosexuals. We cannot judge them but in our society what majority of the citizens think is usually the "right" thing. No one ever stands up and tries to prove otherwise. So concluding this statement what the society thinks is either the "right" or "wrong," that's how thing's should be and is going to be. Society is the way people determine whether they should do something or not. Even schools have been that same way. Most students go to college's that their friend's go to. It may not be the correct school for them but since that's what majority of people are doing it's counted as the "correct" thing for them. Another example is how most mother's base everything on their surroundings. If they hear something on the news or even if just a friend told them something they automatically assume that it's true. Since the news and their friend's say that it's right than it has to be right; because the news or their friend's would never tell them anything that's incorrect. When majority of the citizens claim that something is right in a certain way than it has to be right only and only in the specific way. That's how life in today's society truly works out. We are taught what is right and what is wrong as a child and as we get older those thought's are remained the same in our head's because that is what was given to us when we were just little infant's. That is what is given to us whether or not it is morally correct, it is correct to the society so it has to be followed. But what happens to our own beliefs. Our own beliefs end up disappearing when the truth value of things come in. Your own belief is nothing compared to the beliefs of the society as a whole. People only can have their beliefs but when putting those in action, society comes before anything else. Even if we don't agree with the "right's" and "wrong's" we still have to follow them because we aren't capable of standing out. Citizens are so afraid of what people would think of them so they end up just doing what is counted as right. People even judge other people for what the society believes and there isn't anything that people can do about it. All you can do is accept that there are thing's in this world that cannot be changed.
Debate Round No. 3
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