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InquireTruth
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Daysuit
Con (against)
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70 Points

Rock Music should be permitted in Churches as a form of worship.

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/12/2008 Category: Religion
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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InquireTruth

Pro

I would prefer to debate a Christian, as it is an intra-religious topic. It must be demonstrated that Rock Music cannot be used as a form of worship because it is either sinful or unbiblical. I insist that I, like King David, can Dance and sing to my Savior in the most unorthodox way and, when opposition is raised, unflinchingly proclaim "I will become even more undignified than this" (2 Samuel 6:22).
Daysuit

Con

Daysuit forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 1
InquireTruth

Pro

Unfortunately my opponent has chosen to forfeit his round and has therefore offered no line of reasoning which I might refute.
Daysuit

Con

Daysuit forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
InquireTruth

Pro

I am copying and pasting my argument from a similiar debate because Daysuit has left me cold.

So the syllogism is as follows: Rock music is of the world, the Church is not of the world, and therefore rock music and church are mutually incompatible. It seems like a logically sound formula. However, the fatally damning flaw is in the presupposition—rock music is of the world. If you could express what qualifies something as worldly? Is it based on who practiced it first? Or the way in which it's done? Certainly all humans defecate. It could be well reasoned that defecation is a universally worldly action. Daysuit, I insist you stop pooping - for the sake of righteousness of course.
Could you please express the way in which Christians can set themselves apart from this worldly function? Of course that IS what it means to be holy right? To set yourself apart from everything the world does, that includes, but is not limited to:
• Eating
• Bathing,
• Grooming (or not grooming, they do both. Uh Oh a conundrum)
• Water skiing
• Walking
• Running
• Jogging
• Blinking
• Watching movies
• Reading
• Reasoning.
As is abundantly clear, one cannot simply classify something as worldly based upon whether the world actively does it our not. It seems only reasonable that something is worldly based upon both sin and intent. So first you must prove that Rock music is sinful (not just because the world does it), then you must demonstrate that the intent of using the rock music is to sin. Romans 14 makes it very clear that some people view certain foods as sinful (Paul calls them weaker Christians in the chapter), and then he says some see all food as permissible – neither is sinning, whatever you do, do so for the Lord. Paul makes it clear that trying to please God does in fact please God. It was the heart of the matter, and not the action itself that decided sinfulness.
When the rock music starts blazing and my hands go up, I am worshipping and glorifying my Lord and Savior, and I, like King David, can say "I will become even more undignified than this" (2 Samuel 6:22). Even David worshipped with stringed instruments (Psalm 150:4), actually with strings, tambourine, flute and dancing – he had a whole band I guess.

A second point that must be made is in what way shall we worship God?
Can we worship him with dancing – surely dancing is a worldly thing.
Can we worship him with singing – no no, the world sings.

So the burden set before you is this: Prove to me that rock music is sinful – not that it can be sinful or that sometimes it is sinful – even prayer can be sinful sometimes (Jesus reprimands the Pharisees for this). Prove to me that the sole purpose of rock music is sinful. Then demonstrate the most unworldly way to worship God – and we'll see if it stands up to scrutiny.

I look forward to your response.

-InquireTruth
Daysuit

Con

Daysuit forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by TheSkeptic 8 years ago
TheSkeptic
All points to PRO - can't believe CON has even one point.
Posted by Alex 8 years ago
Alex
How is he losing when the other guy forfeited every round?
Posted by DATCMOTO 8 years ago
DATCMOTO
" Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the father is not in him." 1JOHN2:15 NKJV
" Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with this world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to make be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. " JAMES4:4 NKJV

You cannot get much more worldly than RocknRoll etc.. The purpose of this music is purely emotional, to 'lose control'.. One of the fruits of the Holy Spirit is self control, the EXACT opposite.
Consider the negative effect the counter culture has on SECULAR society since the late 1950's.. And we're bringing it into the Church?
Posted by Sweatingjojo 9 years ago
Sweatingjojo
It's hard to loose when the other person doesn't show up to debate.
Posted by Renzzy 9 years ago
Renzzy
I had better not see any votes for CON...
Posted by slayer54321 9 years ago
slayer54321
I would accept this challenge if i didn't stand for the same thing you do.
Posted by InquireTruth 9 years ago
InquireTruth
Haha, yeah I saw that. That IS what I meant. Probably should have proof read.
Posted by Rezzealaux 9 years ago
Rezzealaux
......don't you mean intra-religious topic?
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