The Instigator
2ez88
Pro (for)
Losing
14 Points
The Contender
Sorrow
Con (against)
Winning
26 Points

Rock-n-Roll Music Is A Worst Influence Then HipHop

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 3/23/2010 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (3)
Comments (15)
Votes (10)

 

2ez88

Pro

Rock music is a bad influence on young kids
Rock music was created 4 and by the devil
Rock music has a demonic message in it

HipHop is very soulful To Where Rock Is Painful
HipHop has a better message the Rock-n-Roll
HipHop Is a Culture To where Rock is a Rebellious plague
Sorrow

Con

I disagree. All music is bad, and all music is good. Your argument is invalid.
Debate Round No. 1
2ez88

Pro

No All Music isnt bad, its only bad when the message in it is degrading or has a demonic meaning to it.
MOST Rock music infuences fans
to eat animals (ozzy Osbourne)
Cut dem selves
scream till there heads hurt
wear all black (Gothic)
ignore god (as i see u do)
do drugs
tattoo themselves until no more skin is showing
the lists goes on and on

On the other hand there are Positive Music out there
Gospel
Jazz
Blues
SOME HipHop
Classical (Beethevon)
Etc.

You didnt even try and prove your point Guess you couldnt ;)
Sorrow

Con

I disagree. All music is bad, and all music is good. Your argument is invalid.
Debate Round No. 2
2ez88

Pro

Guess Im The Victor
EZ W
Sorrow

Con

I disagree. All music is good, and your music is bad. Vote CON for an ez win.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Benbujah 6 years ago
Benbujah
Don't you say Rock and Roll is bad. I'm a 14 year old kid, and I've listened to bands like Escape the Fate, Hollywood Undead, and a bunch of other "bad influences" and look at me! I love the rush it gives me at concerts. Sure, rebelion isn't such a good idea, but I love the feeling at concerts. I went to a Three Days Grace, Flyleaf, and Breaking Benjamin concert, and they were amazing. As a 14 year old kid, I want a good future, so I'm taking some tougher classes. I've got some pretty good grades. B+ and over. A lot of A's. So, please, don't say Rock and Roll has been invented for and by the devil when it's so many people's favorite genre. If anything, modern Hip Hop has half naked girls in the music videos, send messages that refer to using drugs, and so much more. Rock is better in Hip Hop in so many ways, so don't say Rock is worse.
Posted by Ninja_Tru 6 years ago
Ninja_Tru
The Lwerd is right that both sides didn't really develop arguments. So to vote, a voter would have to do some work for one side and add weight to their opinions. Regardless, I voted Con simply because his statement had more inherent truth in it than the Pro did in its statements. All music has good and bad sides. The Pro would have to do a bit more work on its list of good music before it can outweigh the Con's argument that everything is neutral. If all music is equally bad, then Rock-n-roll isn't any worse than hip hop and the Con wins.

And I think the Con is right; all music has some bad to it. Jazz used to be "orgasm music" or "orjazzm music," which was played in brothels. Gospel talks about war and hell and destruction of cities. Hip hop has lewd sexual comments. Blues makes a lot of women seem to be immoral and heartbreakers. Classical seems to be the only neutral type of music, unless anyone else can think of a reason it's bad?
Posted by Sorrow 6 years ago
Sorrow
By Pro's standard Miley Cyrus is a better musician than The Beatles or Elvis Presley.

If that's the world we live in today, then God help me tomorrow.
Posted by feverish 6 years ago
feverish
Lwerd: "lol @ Elvis is rock-n-roll and not rock. Rock-N-Roll is a variation of rock, just like metal is. You can't pidgeonhole every sound either despite our incessant need for labels."

He he yeah, that's why I said "all labels are BS".

There do however seem to be differences of opinion regarding what is rock and what is rock and roll:

"The term "rock and roll" now has at least two different meanings, both in common usage. The American Heritage Dictionary[10] and the Merriam-Webster Dictionary[11] both define rock and roll as synonymous with rock music. Allwords.com, however, refers specifically to the music of the 1950s.[12] For the purpose of differentiation, this article uses the latter definition, while the broader musical genre is discussed in the rock music article." http://en.wikipedia.org...

When we discuss these kinds of music in the UK, we generally think of rock 'n' roll being the earlier genre that mainstream rock music developed out of. The abscence or prescence of electrc amplification could perhaps be used as a distinguishing feature.
Posted by chrisallen 6 years ago
chrisallen
yes, but your points were so nonsensical that you really gave him nothing to debate. the burden of argument lies with pro, and you offered con nothing really to come back to.

you'd have been better off if you'd simply typed
"chicken vegetable 27 murder omlette beep shaghetti universe 302.5 waffle waffle waffle"
Posted by 2ez88 6 years ago
2ez88
It doesnt matter i should win cuz i gave EFFORT....he juss repeated himself
Posted by guitarist4ever 6 years ago
guitarist4ever
both rocknroll and hiphop have songs that have negative influences, this is more of an opinion then anything else
Posted by chrisallen 6 years ago
chrisallen
neither side makes a single valid point.

pro makes points but not a single one makes any sense whatsoever
con doesn't make any points.

who the hell should win here?
Posted by Danielle 6 years ago
Danielle
And lol @ Elvis is rock-n-roll and not rock. Rock-N-Roll is a variation of rock, just like metal is. You can't pidgeonhole every sound either despite our incessant need for labels.
Posted by Danielle 6 years ago
Danielle
I think anyone who voted arguments in either Pro or Con's favor is retarded. Both of them merely cited opinions - not arguments. I noticed that everyone voted for Con despite him only saying "All music is bad and all music is good." Did Con defend or explain that? No? Then how can you consider that a better argument than Pros? Pro didn't explain or defend his opinions either. Both of them suck equally.
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