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Romeo and Juliet were stupid

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Started: 7/28/2014 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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BblackkBbirdd

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If 'Romeo and Juliet' happened today, most people would think they were morons alongside a few of the other characters.

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Debate Round No. 1
BblackkBbirdd

Pro


Why Romeo And Juliet Respectively Were Morons :

Why Romeo was Dumb (by modern standards):
1. Romeo goes to his enemy’s party because he fancied the host’s hot niece, he then losses interest in her and decides he no longer wants to die for her beauty…because he just saw her cousin, Juliet was way hotter who he fall instantly ‘in love’ with her instead (*cough* shallow and immature*cough* obviously can’t tell the difference between ‘lust’ and ‘love *cough*). This shows how dumb he is because he puts himself in danger to go to the party just because he has a crush on a girl there.

2. He proposes to a girl he meet a just few hours before (do I even have to explain why this is dumb by moderen standards? People today wait three years on average before doing this)

3. After leaving the church (for no apparent reason after the wedding), he ends up killing his wife’s cousin out of revenge. Firstly, Mercutio’s death is kind of Romeo’s fault anyway because he blocks Merc’s deference by stepping in front of him, so Tybalt can stab him, his stupidity helped kill Mercutio. Anyway, killing someone in the street impulsively is never really a great idea. True it was sort of self-defence but he didn’t have to kill Tybalt, he could have incapacitated him, but he killed him anyway. Romeo is dumb because the murder was impulsive, and impulsive killers are documented as being less intelligent than calculating killers, after all Romeo would have to be an idiot to kill someone in plain sight after being told he’d be executed for doing this.
4. Dispute having even less to gain from suicide than Juliet (who would be in deep sh!t if people found out she wasn’t dead) he still kills himself, over a girl he meet a couple of days earlier. He could have just decided to back to being banished, grieved and gotten on with his life, like most people do but instead he killed himself, for no reason. That’s pretty dumb and irrational.


Why Juliet was Dumb (by modern standards):
1. The play takes place on the days between Sunday and early Friday, less than a week. They meet on Sunday evening; this gives her mere hours between the evening and later that evening to decide that marring Romeo in the morning is a great idea! (Even though they just meet, spent a few minutes talking and didn’t really talk much at that and just made out a couple of times.) I’m pretty sure that most 13 year olds today wouldn’t agree to marry some guy they just meet because they realise how dumb this is. Not to mention the fact that Romeo is acting like fledgling stalker when it comes to the girls he has a crush on, going to the party to stalk Rosaline, watching Juliet from bushes (Romantic!). Why would you agree to marry him after he did that to you?


2. Cries more about not being able to live with a husband she meet the other day than the fact this is because he’s her cousin’s murderer, and still pursues a relationship with him. Why would you do that? That’s pretty dumb Juliet, most people would say it’s dumb to want to keep dating a guy who impulsively murdered someone in your family a couple of hours ago.

3. She then emotionally blackmails the friar into helping her fake her death, because otherwise she’ll kill herself so she doesn’t have to marry Paris. Dudes! It’s the 21st century; girl you don’t have to marry some old guy because your parents said so, get the police on their a.ss for trying to make you a child bride. Friar; your decision making is WAY poor. Stop committing crimes and stop aiding children in doing illegal sh!t (marring two children to each other, helping someone fake death), that’s not on dude. While we’re on the topic, (okay this bit is slightly of topic actually) how does Friar Laurence know how to make a drug which puts people in a coma for 42 hours? And why’d he need to know what dose to give to a 13 year old? Why would he ever need to use this? Didn’t Juliet ever question this? It was his idea afterall... HE COULD HAVE KIDNAPPED HER OR SOMETHING, AND NO ONE WOULD LOOK FOR HER BECAUSE 'SHE’S DEAD' FOR ALL SHE KNEW!

4. Why did she fake her death anyway? Didn’t her parents say that if she didn’t marry Paris, they’d disowned her, so why didn’t she just let them disown her and then go to live with Romeo? That makes waayy more sense that the whole overly complicated ‘faking death so they can be together’ plan. I think she was pretty dumb to have not thought of this.


5. Fails to communicate with her husband that she’s not really dead. (Okay, when the play was written there were no phones but people today would still assume that since she didn’t just call him or something she was dumb.)
5b. Failure to communicate plans properly to husband results in him acting like a moron and killing himself, so she kills herself too, at the age of 13 because her 'true love' just died. Girl, that dumb.


In conclusion, they were both just dumb kids by mordern standards.

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DakotaDebate

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Debate Round No. 2
BblackkBbirdd

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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by discomfiting 2 years ago
discomfiting
I like the story of Romeo & Juliet but hate the misinterpretation of it being "love at first sight" when it's a satirical playwright about teenage lustrous emotions and naive decisions.
Posted by birdlandmemories 2 years ago
birdlandmemories
Shakespare or whatever must feel like a moron.
Posted by BblackkBbirdd 2 years ago
BblackkBbirdd
Juliet was 13 and married I guy she just meet. Just tell me that if some 13 year old girl decided she'd found her 'true love', (a hormonal moron) and wanted to marry him, the day after they meet she wouldn't be called stupid by people in today's society.
Posted by 9spaceking 2 years ago
9spaceking
Actually, that's only half true. Romeo was the only moron. Romeo rushed too much and just killed himself for no reason. Juliet actually knew that the Church Guy's plan would have worked had not Romeo dumb-dumbed and suicided.
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