Ron Paul Supporters should find a new leader to advocate there views
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This is not a debate over wether his supporerst should vote for him this GOP election but rather in reference to future election, both presidential and congressional for that matter.
Of the 620 bills sponsored by Ron Paul during his long career in the House of Representatives, only four have ever made it to a vote on the House floor and only one of those became an actual law.
this here is that one law he actually had sucess with in 14 years of his service in congress http://www.govtrack.us...=
As you can see, its a incridebly unimportent pass that has next to nothing to do with advocating 'liberty'.
Even if Ron Paul agree's with everything you yourself believe, or even you started to believe what you do because of Ron Pauls preaching it, you should look to get a new person to advocate it who's not Ron Paul to put your suppot behind. When electing someone to represent you, you need a leader who can, you know lead the change you want in washington.
If they cant do that, then there just another talking windbag.
Do you want the federal reserve audited, so does Ron Paul, but he's a faulure for getting that to ever happen
Do you want us to get back on a Gold Standard to back the dollar bill, so does Ron Paul but he has been a failure at getting these things to get done.
Next time you get to elect a consistant libitarien to stand up for your views, its most rational for you to give a new libitarien the chance to advocate them. Ron Paul has had his chance for 14 years and has shown he is not the leader you need to usher 'liberty' back to America.
and once he is no longer in Congress Ron Paul can still do what you like him doing, talking in videos on youtube and saying what you want him to say in media interviews (thats all he's manages to do now sitting in a congressional seat). meanwhile the new libitarian you vote to congress can give his effort at actually making the comprimises needed to bring in the change you want that Ron Paul is always talking about.
But he is a total failure at getting anything like that done. he cant work with the rest of legeslature enough to get more than one bill passed how is putting him in the white house going to help that.
you like him because he wants to legalize marujuana, fine, but he's never going to get it legalized. case closed. you need to put your support behind a poltician who wants to legalize marujuana who's not Ron Paul, who can actual lead others in power to get that done.
I would say I look foward to my opponents response, but truthfully I'm just thinking I should have put some resrictions on who could accapt this debate now.
He cant legalize pot, he never even got a bill on legalizing pot to the floor of congress to get voted on, When he gets to the white house and has the power to sign a bill to legalize pot, it will still never pass through congress for him to sign, and neither will anything else in our nation that he wants to do. he cant veto things but that a destructive power to keep things from happing not a creative power to cause things.
the things he will be do will be related to our forces over seas, but legal pot, not going to happen. Gold standard? still not going to come back. Presidents have to learn to work with those across the isle and for Ron Paul thats every single member of congress.
But this debate is not really about getting Ron Paul to the white house, its about Ron Paul being the man his supporters put up in the race to get to the white house.
core conservatives had like 4 people in the race trying to get behind, some are better options than others. Moderates have about too people they could get behind. Gingrich was in there for people who are both old and stupid in the race to get behind.
Libitarians right now have Ron Paul. Other Libitarians exist, all I am saying with this resolution is another one is needed to be found to take Ron Pauls place, one who can work with those of a different view in compramise to get key victories for his own libitarian views. Romney knows how to do that and has sucess with that for his own moderate conservative views, Santorum has had success with that for his social conservative views, Ron Paul has had no success, you should find someone else to who wants to legalize pot to get behind that can actualy compromise with other people in power.
There is line that divides leadership and windbaggery, and it is time for libitarians to recognize wich side Ron Paul fits on. and its not leadership.
iTROLLLOLOLOLOLOLOL forfeited this round.
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Vote Placed by larztheloser 5 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro insulted me and believed I was posting as a troll because I still don't get this debate. Nobody has ever insulted me in this way and I feel absolutely upset and heartbroken that anybody would ever dare to call me a troll. In future I will never again offer constructive criticisms of the wording of topics - I never insult debaters, that's just low. Criticizing topics is fair. My opponent is slandering me with neither evidence nor truth on his side and doesn't deserve the win.
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