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policydebategod
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Ron Paul is a better candidate for president than Joe Bieden.

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Started: 12/23/2007 Category: Politics
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revleader5

Pro

This is going to be 4 rounds. Just say a little bit about your candidate in the first round.

Ron Paul
-Destroy the IRS & Federal Reserve
-Follow the Constitution
-Pull us out of Iraq.
policydebategod

Con

Ill respond to your points by showing how my candidate is better in all of those issues instead of pulling up random issus without a backing. This should be fun. And i respect and encourage your strong, loyal support and volunteering in the political process even if it is not for the same candidate.
As president, Paul will not be able to obliterate the frederal reserve and irs because congress will not go for that. Also he has no money plan, no replacement, he just says damn it all to hell. Biden makes real plans.
Biden will (http://www.joebiden.com...)
- create a pay as you go budget
- make new priorities and put the Iraq War lower while putting tuitions and health care at the top
- kick the deficit
- build a surplus and jobs
- Helped millions escape poverty with the Earned Income Tax Credit.
- Would fix the Alternative Minimum Tax providing relief to millions of middle-income Americans.
- Encouraged innovation and competition in research and development, making America more competitive in the global economy.
- Repealing the Oil Company Tax Breaks

Both are the same on the constitution.

Paul supports pulling out of Iraq without a plan. http://www.ronpaul2008.com...

Biden will:
- Federalize Iraq in accordance with its constitution by establishing three largely autonomous regions - Shiite, Sunni and Kurd -- with a strong but limited central government in Baghdad
- Put the central government in charge of truly common interests: border defense, foreign policy, oil production and revenues
- Form regional governments -- Kurd, Sunni and Shiite -- responsible for administering their own regions
- Gain agreement for the federal solution from the Sunni Arabs by guaranteeing them 20 percent of all present and future oil revenues -- an amount roughly proportional to their size -- which would make their region economically viable
- Empower the central government to set national oil policy and distribute the revenues, which would attract needed foreign investment and reinforce each community's interest in keeping Iraq intact and protecting the oil infrastructure
- Convene with the U.N. a regional security conference where Iraq's neighbors, including Iran, pledge to support Iraq's power sharing agreement and respect Iraq's borders
- Engage Iraq's neighbors directly to overcome their suspicions and focus their efforts on stabilizing Iraq, not undermining it
- Create a standing Contact Group, to include the major powers, that would engage Iraq's neighbors and enforce their commitments
- Direct U.S. military commanders to develop a plan to withdraw and re-deploy almost all U.S. forces from Iraq by the summer of 2008
- Maintain in or near Iraq a small residual force -- perhaps 20,000 troops -- to strike any concentration of terrorists, help keep Iraq's neighbors honest and train its security forces
- Provide more reconstruction assistance, conditioned on the protection of minority and women's rights and the establishment of a jobs program to give Iraqi youth an alternative to the militia and criminal gangs
- Insist that other countries take the lead in funding reconstruction by making good on old commitments and providing new ones -- especially the oil-rich Arab Gulf countries

Here are some issuse that Biden is for that Paul does not find important enough:
Iran

Modernize Education System

Access to Higher Education

A Secure Retirement: A Promise to Keep

Homeland Security
Energy

Climate Change

Crime

Leadership on Darfur
Protecting the Environment

Standing with Fire Fighters

Fiscal Responsibility
A Proven Leader on Foreign Relations

Jobs

The Experience to Make Medicare Better
Empowering Women to Take Charge

Ending 21st Century Discrimination

Online Nation

Fighting for America's Veterans

Global Development

Immigration

A REAL Plan For Iraq

Joe Biden's Energy Security Plan
Debate Round No. 1
revleader5

Pro

I will only respond to the situation in Iraq for this round because I think it is most important. Thanks by the way, for finally debating me on this. Not many people on this site are willing to defend their candidate against me.

You say Joe Bieden will put Iraq lower on the list of priorities, right? How exactly is that working for the hundreds of thousands of troops located there right now? My dad served in Iraq for 1 year. Not many troops will be happy to find out that sorting out our healthcare issues is considered more important by them. He should just use the European healthcare system if it is so important to him, European is by far the best system.

You also tell me tuitions are important to Bieden. As in college, I'm guessing. There are plenty of federal college funds to give support right now. I don't think that a fake and illegal war on terror should rank lower than little Johnny getting even more money for his college. What will the college degree matter when the US economy is in the crapper because we are in such debt to the PRIVATE COMPANIES like Federal Reserve and IRS which we borrow money from, also foreign nations we borrow from.
policydebategod

Con

IVE REPEATED A LOT OF ARGUMENTS BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT RESPONDED TO.

Here are some issuse that Biden is for that Paul does not find important enough:
Iran, Modernize Education System, Access to Higher Education, A Secure Retirement: A Promise to Keep, Homeland Security,Energy, Climate Change, Crime, Leadership on Darfur, Protecting the Environment, Standing with Fire Fighters, Fiscal Responsibility, A Proven Leader on Foreign Relations Jobs, Experience to Make Medicare Better, Empowering Women to Take Charge, Ending 21st Century Discrimination, Online Nation, Fighting for America's Veterans, Global Development, Immigration, A REAL Plan For Iraq, Joe Biden's Energy Security Plan

You say Joe Bieden will put Iraq lower on the list of priorities, right? How exactly is that working for the hundreds of thousands of troops located there right now? My dad served in Iraq for 1 year.
+ Biden will not lower them so much that they dont matter but rather will take the trillions being spent there and apply that money elsewhere. He will still protect the troops. Biden paid for getting rid of landmines in Iraq. He decreased the troop deaths by 70%!!! BIden is an anti-Iraq candidate who still supports our tropps.

- He should just use the European healthcare system if it is so important to him, European is by far the best system.
+ Are you willing to elaborate on this? And why isnt Ron Paul using this system?

- You also tell me tuitions are important to Bieden. As in college, I'm guessing. There are plenty of federal college funds to give support right now. I don't think that a fake and illegal war on terror should rank lower than little Johnny getting even more money for his college.
+ Millions of Johnnys are more important than these wars that Biden will make better, more efficient and less costly.

- What will the college degree matter when the US economy is in the crapper because we are in such debt to the PRIVATE COMPANIES like Federal Reserve and IRS which we borrow money from, also foreign nations we borrow from.

Biden will for foreign relations(http://www.joebiden.com...):
Using Diplomacy to Keep America Safe:
Rebuild Relationships:
Secure Weapons:
Advance Democracy:
Joe Biden has A Career in Foreign Relations
Ending Genocide in Darfur:
Securing and Eliminating the Worst Weapons:
Working for Peace and Justice in the Balkans:
Increasing Alliances:
Fighting Terrorism:
Supporting Funding and Accountability for the United Nations:
Keeping Drugs out of the United States:

As president, Paul will not be able to obliterate the frederal reserve and irs because congress will not go for that. Also he has no money plan, no replacement, he just says damn it all to hell. Biden makes real plans.
Biden will for money (http://www.joebiden.com......):
- create a pay as you go budget
- make new priorities and put the Iraq War lower while putting tuitions and health care at the top
- kick the deficit
- build a surplus and jobs
- Helped millions escape poverty with the Earned Income Tax Credit.
- Would fix the Alternative Minimum Tax providing relief to millions of middle-income Americans.
- Encouraged innovation and competition in research and development, making America more competitive in the global economy.
- Repeal the oil tax breaks.

Paul supports pulling out of Iraq without a plan. http://www.ronpaul2008.com......

Biden will:
- Federalize Iraq in accordance with its constitution by establishing three largely autonomous regions - Shiite, Sunni and Kurd -- with a strong but limited central government in Baghdad
- Put the central government in charge of truly common interests: border defense, foreign policy, oil production and revenues
- Form regional governments -- Kurd, Sunni and Shiite -- responsible for administering their own regions
- Gain agreement for the federal solution from the Sunni Arabs by guaranteeing them 20 percent of all present and future oil revenues -- an amount roughly proportional to their size -- which would make their region economically viable
- Empower the central government to set national oil policy and distribute the revenues, which would attract needed foreign investment and reinforce each community's interest in keeping Iraq intact and protecting the oil infrastructure
- Convene with the U.N. a regional security conference where Iraq's neighbors, including Iran, pledge to support Iraq's power sharing agreement and respect Iraq's borders
- Engage Iraq's neighbors directly to overcome their suspicions and focus their efforts on stabilizing Iraq, not undermining it
- Create a standing Contact Group, to include the major powers, that would engage Iraq's neighbors and enforce their commitments
- Direct U.S. military commanders to develop a plan to withdraw and re-deploy almost all U.S. forces from Iraq by the summer of 2008
- Maintain in or near Iraq a small residual force -- perhaps 20,000 troops -- to strike any concentration of terrorists, help keep Iraq's neighbors honest and train its security forces
- Provide more reconstruction assistance, conditioned on the protection of minority and women's rights and the establishment of a jobs program to give Iraqi youth an alternative to the militia and criminal gangs
- Insist that other countries take the lead in funding reconstruction by making good on old commitments and providing new ones -- especially the oil-rich Arab Gulf countries
Debate Round No. 2
revleader5

Pro

HEALTHCARE- You asked me why Dr.Paul isn't using the European system? He doesn't really support it because it is a very liberal thing to do. I would think that you would support Ron PAul. In 1988, he ran for Libertarian in the presidential election. Haha, go and make your cracks about how he isn't dedicated.

Iran- please explain the situatuion there.

IRS and Federal Reserve- Ron Paul would easily be able to sway the republicans and a majority of democrats to vote for this. No matter what you say about him, even if he wasn't able to destroy it, at least he isn't as ignorant as the other candidates who don't recognize this problem.

What do you think of Dennis Kunich?

P.S. You say Ron Paul would pull out of Iraq without a plan. What would Joe Bieden do, keep them there? And why the hell do we need a plan, in the sense of this war isn't about us really, it is about their religion, something we agreed to never intervene on.
policydebategod

Con

IVE REPEATED A LOT OF ARGUMENTS BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT RESPONDED TO.

Here are some issuse that Biden is for that Paul does not find important enough:
Iran, Modernize Education System, Access to Higher Education, A Secure Retirement: A Promise to Keep, Homeland Security,Energy, Climate Change, Crime, Leadership on Darfur, Protecting the Environment, Standing with Fire Fighters, Fiscal Responsibility, A Proven Leader on Foreign Relations Jobs, Experience to Make Medicare Better, Empowering Women to Take Charge, Ending 21st Century Discrimination, Online Nation, Fighting for America's Veterans, Global Development, Immigration, A REAL Plan For Iraq, Joe Biden's Energy Security Plan

+ HEALTHCARE- You asked me why Dr.Paul isn't using the European system? He doesn't really support it because it is a very liberal thing to do.
- So, why would you bring this point up if it does not help or hurt either of us?

+ In 1988, he ran for Libertarian in the presidential election. Haha, go and make your cracks about how he isn't dedicated.
- I understand it. To run as a Libertarian would generally make you lose. He apparently wants to win and make change in the world. The Libertarians will be big enough one day but not yet.

+ Iran- please explain the situatuion there.
- Biden will for foreign relations(http://www.joebiden.com......):
Using Diplomacy to Keep America Safe:
Rebuild Relationships:
Secure Weapons:
Advance Democracy:
Joe Biden has A Career in Foreign Relations
Ending Genocide in Darfur:
Securing and Eliminating the Worst Weapons:
Working for Peace and Justice in the Balkans:
Increasing Alliances:
Fighting Terrorism:
Supporting Funding and Accountability for the United Nations:
Keeping Drugs out of the United States:
- Is war with Iran inevitable? And can we avoid the other stark alternative – an Iran armed with nuclear weapons? Recently, the intelligence community released what's called a National Intelligence Estimate on Iran's nuclear intentions and capabilities. The conclusions are, figuratively speaking, explosive. The Estimate found that Tehran halted its nuclear weapons program in 2003 and, as of the middle of this year, had not restarted it. Iran did resume work on uranium enrichment, which is the most likely method it would use to produce the fissile material for a bomb. But at its current pace, the NIE concluded that Iran could produce that material no earlier than the end of 2009 – but that this is very unlikely. More likely is that Iran will be capable of making enough material for a bomb sometime between 2010 and 2015. This means that the answers to the questions I posed are no, war is not inevitable and yes, we can prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. There is still time for diplomatic engagement and economic pressure to work. There is still time to protect our interests without using force.

+ IRS and Federal Reserve- Ron Paul would easily be able to sway the republicans and a majority of democrats to vote for this. No matter what you say about him, even if he wasn't able to destroy it, at least he isn't as ignorant as the other candidates who don't recognize this problem.
- Who cares how ignorant he is? If he is the best candidate in the world who cant make the changes, what good is he? And hes not even the best candidate.
- Paul has no money plan, no replacement, he just says damn it all to hell. Biden makes real plans.
Biden will for money (http://www.joebiden.com.........):
- create a pay as you go budget
- make new priorities and put the Iraq War lower while putting tuitions and health care at the top
- kick the deficit
- build a surplus and jobs
- Helped millions escape poverty with the Earned Income Tax Credit.
- Would fix the Alternative Minimum Tax providing relief to millions of middle-income Americans.
- Encouraged innovation and competition in research and development, making America more competitive in the global economy.
- Repeal the oil tax breaks.

+ What do you think of Dennis Kunich?
- I hate Kucinich because he is generally anti-war which is basically saying let's have slavery, two Americas, be a British territory, allow the Holocaust. but thats an irrelevant debate. please stay on topic.

+ P.S. You say Ron Paul would pull out of Iraq without a plan. What would Joe Biden do, keep them there?
- Biden will:
- Federalize Iraq in accordance with its constitution by establishing three largely autonomous regions - Shiite, Sunni and Kurd -- with a strong but limited central government in Baghdad
- Put the central government in charge of truly common interests: border defense, foreign policy, oil production and revenues
- Form regional governments -- Kurd, Sunni and Shiite -- responsible for administering their own regions
- Gain agreement for the federal solution from the Sunni Arabs by guaranteeing them 20 percent of all present and future oil revenues -- an amount roughly proportional to their size -- which would make their region economically viable
- Empower the central government to set national oil policy and distribute the revenues, which would attract needed foreign investment and reinforce each community's interest in keeping Iraq intact and protecting the oil infrastructure
- Convene with the U.N. a regional security conference where Iraq's neighbors, including Iran, pledge to support Iraq's power sharing agreement and respect Iraq's borders
- Engage Iraq's neighbors directly to overcome their suspicions and focus their efforts on stabilizing Iraq, not undermining it
- Create a standing Contact Group, to include the major powers, that would engage Iraq's neighbors and enforce their commitments
- Direct U.S. military commanders to develop a plan to withdraw and re-deploy almost all U.S. forces from Iraq by the summer of 2008
- Maintain in or near Iraq a small residual force -- perhaps 20,000 troops -- to strike any concentration of terrorists, help keep Iraq's neighbors honest and train its security forces
- Provide more reconstruction assistance, conditioned on the protection of minority and women's rights and the establishment of a jobs program to give Iraqi youth an alternative to the militia and criminal gangs
- Insist that other countries take the lead in funding reconstruction by making good on old commitments and providing new ones -- especially the oil-rich Arab Gulf countries

+ And why the hell do we need a plan,
- You just admitted that Paul has no plan although his site is good enough.
- Leaving Iraq without a plan is logistically impossible. We only have a certain number on planes. Iraqis will shoot at us while we are leaving. And alo the biggest gang lord will take control of the country. Besides Biden plans does so much.

+ in the sense of this war isn't about us really, it is about their religion, something we agreed to never intervene on.
- the war is not about their religion on our side.
Debate Round No. 3
revleader5

Pro

So Bieden wants to try and keep drugs out of America? That is a cause that will take years to solve. This country will be a dictatorship by then. Ron Paul wants to pull out of Iraq and restore freedom in the US! When asked what he would do if Hong Kong was taken over by China he said, "I wouldn't let thousands of Americans die in a war we weren't involved in. We agreed to not police the world, why are we?"

Here are some Youtube video links, just a few. They are categorized by what they represent in Ron Paul winning. Post a few Bieden ones. I invite you too watch every video.

SMACKING DOWN REPORTERS---

SMACKING DOWN CANDIDATES---

OTHER CANDIDATES ARE SCARED--

IN DEMAND---

ENDORSMENTS---

Coalitions---

OTHERS---
policydebategod

Con

After this debate, I can say that I was disappointed at the lack of debate. This felt more like a conversation. Anyway, I dont expect anybody to actually look at a bunch of Biden or Paul videos. So, therefore, I wont post them.

IVE REPEATED A LOT OF ARGUMENTS BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT RESPONDED TO.

Here are some issuse that Biden is for that Paul does not find important enough:
Iran, Modernize Education System, Access to Higher Education, A Secure Retirement: A Promise to Keep, Homeland Security,Energy, Climate Change, Crime, Leadership on Darfur, Protecting the Environment, Standing with Fire Fighters, Fiscal Responsibility, A Proven Leader on Foreign Relations Jobs, Experience to Make Medicare Better, Empowering Women to Take Charge, Ending 21st Century Discrimination, Online Nation, Fighting for America's Veterans, Global Development, Immigration, A REAL Plan For Iraq, Joe Biden's Energy Security Plan

- Biden will for foreign relations(http://www.joebiden.com.........):
Using Diplomacy to Keep America Safe:
Rebuild Relationships:
Secure Weapons:
Advance Democracy:
Joe Biden has A Career in Foreign Relations
Ending Genocide in Darfur:
Securing and Eliminating the Worst Weapons:
Working for Peace and Justice in the Balkans:
Increasing Alliances:
Fighting Terrorism:
Supporting Funding and Accountability for the United Nations:
Keeping Drugs out of the United States:

+ IRS and Federal Reserve- Ron Paul would easily be able to sway the republicans and a majority of democrats to vote for this. No matter what you say about him, even if he wasn't able to destroy it, at least he isn't as ignorant as the other candidates who don't recognize this problem.
- Who cares how ignorant he is? If he is the best candidate in the world who cant make the changes, what good is he? And hes not even the best candidate.
- Paul has no money plan, no replacement, he just says damn it all to hell. Biden makes real plans.
Biden will for money (http://www.joebiden.com............):
- create a pay as you go budget
- make new priorities and put the Iraq War lower while putting tuitions and health care at the top
- kick the deficit
- build a surplus and jobs
- Helped millions escape poverty with the Earned Income Tax Credit.
- Would fix the Alternative Minimum Tax providing relief to millions of middle-income Americans.
- Encouraged innovation and competition in research and development, making America more competitive in the global economy.
- Repeal the oil tax breaks.

- Biden will:
- Federalize Iraq in accordance with its constitution by establishing three largely autonomous regions - Shiite, Sunni and Kurd -- with a strong but limited central government in Baghdad
- Put the central government in charge of truly common interests: border defense, foreign policy, oil production and revenues
- Form regional governments -- Kurd, Sunni and Shiite -- responsible for administering their own regions
- Gain agreement for the federal solution from the Sunni Arabs by guaranteeing them 20 percent of all present and future oil revenues -- an amount roughly proportional to their size -- which would make their region economically viable
- Empower the central government to set national oil policy and distribute the revenues, which would attract needed foreign investment and reinforce each community's interest in keeping Iraq intact and protecting the oil infrastructure
- Convene with the U.N. a regional security conference where Iraq's neighbors, including Iran, pledge to support Iraq's power sharing agreement and respect Iraq's borders
- Engage Iraq's neighbors directly to overcome their suspicions and focus their efforts on stabilizing Iraq, not undermining it
- Create a standing Contact Group, to include the major powers, that would engage Iraq's neighbors and enforce their commitments
- Direct U.S. military commanders to develop a plan to withdraw and re-deploy almost all U.S. forces from Iraq by the summer of 2008
- Maintain in or near Iraq a small residual force -- perhaps 20,000 troops -- to strike any concentration of terrorists, help keep Iraq's neighbors honest and train its security forces
- Provide more reconstruction assistance, conditioned on the protection of minority and women's rights and the establishment of a jobs program to give Iraqi youth an alternative to the militia and criminal gangs
- Insist that other countries take the lead in funding reconstruction by making good on old commitments and providing new ones -- especially the oil-rich Arab Gulf countries
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by revleader5 9 years ago
revleader5
By the way, I like the excuse that "no one wants to watch Bieden videos on youtube" genius.
Posted by revleader5 9 years ago
revleader5
What ElDiablo means is that when you are being beaten up in a debate, you simply repost your argument and are done. And after a debate, during the voting period, you should always respond to hecklers who are against you in the comments.
Posted by policydebategod 9 years ago
policydebategod
why would i stay in a debate that i have won or lost? the debate is over. my time is more valuable that yours apparently. i finish my debates. i dont understand what your saying.
Posted by ElDiablo123 9 years ago
ElDiablo123
Uh... from what I have seen, policydebategod doesn't ever really finish debates he loses. He just kinda... leaves them.
Posted by policydebategod 9 years ago
policydebategod
to Landon: Libertarians support Biden when Libertarians cant win an election. But Lbertarians work hard so change can happen instead of working on their own agenda. Libertarians will be bigger one day. And I'd love to beat you on Paul with Biden one day soon.
Posted by Toored 9 years ago
Toored
It doesn't even seem fair to compare the two. They are so completely different.
Posted by LandonWalsh 9 years ago
LandonWalsh
Shitty?! Alright, i've got you after your done with Rev.

And since when do Libertarians support democrats?! Let alone Biden!
Posted by policydebategod 9 years ago
policydebategod
Let him debate his [$hitty] candidate if he likes.
Posted by revleader5 9 years ago
revleader5
Why Landon? I have fun debating about Ron Paul.
Posted by LandonWalsh 9 years ago
LandonWalsh
revleader5 please stop....
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