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Russia has every right to annex the Crimea - Attempt 2

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Started: 3/21/2014 Category: Politics
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MrMagic

Con

This is attempt number two on this debate. The first round shall be acceptance only, though if you do wish to elaborate into your opening argument then by all means do so. I wish my opponent the very best of luck.
michaeltaffe3

Pro

I accept the challenge. Good luck.
Debate Round No. 1
MrMagic

Con

As most will be aware, due to recent events within eastern Europe, it appears that the Russian Federation is currently in the process of annexing the Crimea. This would not be the first time that the Crimea has changed sovereignty in relatively recent years. In fact, it was Russia that gave the Peninsular to the Ukraine on the 19th of February 1954, as a gift, to mark the 300th anniversary of the Ukraine joining the so named "Russian Empire". (http://www.npr.org...)

Prior to 1954, the events that took place, that were orchestrated and carried out by Russia at the time, were pretty abysmal. I shall only go so far back as 1944, for the sake of current relevance. However in 1944, Russia ethnically cleansed the Crimean Oblast. All native Crimeans (The Crimean Tatars) were deported, by force, to central Asia. Just under half of all deportees died during the process. Those who survived were not allowed to return to the Crimea until the Soviet Union Collapsed (around 1967). The entire process of ethnically cleansing the peninsular took less than six months. (http://en.wikipedia.org...)

Between the years of 1967 and 1992, the Crimean Tatars returned to the Peninsular and by the 6th of May 1992, the Republic of Crimea had declared self governance and passed its own constitution which clearly stated, by parliamentary decree, that the Crimea was a part of The Ukraine. Whilst doubt can be cast over the honesty of recent referendums regarding the sovereignty of Crimea, very little (if any) can be cast on the Crimean Parliaments constitution as this was a part of their statement of independence. They even proclaimed self-governance within this constitution, though they agreed to annul this by the 19th of May 1992.
(http://zakon1.rada.gov.ua...)

Between the years of 1992 and 1995 there was a lot of political unrest within this area, mostly caused by Yurity Meshkov, the elected President of Crimea, who was a Russian separatist and who tried a whole plethora of methods to integrate the Crimea with Russia. He even went so far as to nearly facilitated the annexation of the Crimea by Russia in 1994. By 1995 he had pretty much "paralysed" the work of the Council of Crimea which in turn led to the Ukrainian Authorities having to abolish both the post of President of Crimea and the Crimean Constitution as a whole. In 1995 Yurity Meshkov fled to Russia and did not return to the Crimea until 2011 whereby he was deported by The District Administrative Court of Crimea until 2016.
(http://en.wikipedia.org...)

From this history of Crimea we can clearly see two distinct facts. First is that when a referendum is held, by the Crimeans and run by the Crimeans, their preference is self-governance followed by Ukrainian-governance. Second is that whenever there has been major political unrest within this region, it has been caused directly either by Russia or by Pro-Russian forces.

We can also see indicators that suggests foul play with regards to the recent referendum. Why, for example, would a jury deport a Russian separatist (for being a Russian separatist) in 2011, and yet three years later the entire peninsular (97%) votes in favour of separating from Ukraine and Joining Russia (AKA Russian Separatism). I would expect public opinion to change slightly slower than that unless that is a catalyst, such as Pro-Russian Troops pointing Guns...


Under International Law, Sovereignty of a country can only be revoked if that nation does one of four things:

Violates the Genocide Convention
Violates the Non-Proliferation treaty
Invades or Annexes other Sovereign States
Harbours and supports terrorists/terrorism

(http://books.google.co.uk...)

Neither the Ukraine nor The Crimea have been accused of any of the above and as such, any invasion or annexation by any other Nation is in direct violation of international Law. Thus Russian is in clear violation of International law.

I think at this point I have laid down the Groundwork to say that Russia has neither the Political, Historical or Sociological right to authority of the Crimea and as such has no right to annex it.

michaeltaffe3

Pro

michaeltaffe3 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
MrMagic

Con

another forefeit... pfff
michaeltaffe3

Pro

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Debate Round No. 3
MrMagic

Con

MrMagic forfeited this round.
michaeltaffe3

Pro

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Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by MrMagic 2 years ago
MrMagic
You just need to comment, like you have, saying that you want to debate and then I'll open it up for that person. It just so to ensure that you understand that you will be arguing the pro position for this debate. would you like to argue this?
Posted by victordr 2 years ago
victordr
I haven't been o debate.org for a long time. What is a debate that can not be accepted?
Posted by MrMagic 2 years ago
MrMagic
I have set this debate so that it cannot be accepted. Please comment if you would like to take this up. The first attempt at this debate was ruined by a noob who tried to argue con instead of pro.
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