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TheRussian
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derplington
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Russia's inventions vs. ______'s inventions

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Started: 5/13/2014 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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TheRussian

Pro

In every round (except the first), my opponent will provide 3 inventions from a particular country and explain why the invention is note worthy. Only one country can be chosen, for example, all of the inventions that I will list must be from Russia/by a Russian.
Round 1: Acceptance
Round 2-5: 3 inventions each and an explanation of why it is worthy of mentioning.

The format will be this:
(Name of Invention)-(Name of inventor)-(Year it was invented): (Explanation)
All inventions must be from years: 1850-present
Voters will decide which inventions were the most impressive/most significant.
derplington

Con

I accept... M'ERICA!!!
Debate Round No. 1
TheRussian

Pro

Then let's begin!
As mentioned, I will be using Russian inventions.

1. (Periodic Table)-(Dmitrii Mendeleev)-(1869): First consistent and systematic periodic table. Even predicted where "future" elements would be on the table BEFORE they were actually discovered.
http://web.lemoyne.edu...

2. (AK-47)-(Mikhail Kalashnikov)-(1949): Most produced weapon in history with 75-100 million produced. Revolutionized warfare all around the world. Almost a hundred countries worldwide still use it.
http://www.popularmechanics.com...

3. (Mobile phone)-(Leonid Kupriyanovich)-(1958): First wireless, pocket size phone. Connected to phone lines through electromagnetic waves. Precursor for modern cell phones.
http://www.inventions-handbook.com...
derplington

Con

Alexander Graham Bell- Created the first telephone. Without that, the Russian one would have never been invented. (for a long time)

Wilbur and Orville Wright- Created the first plane, revolutionizing the future of warfare.

The Manhattan Project- The first nuclear weapons were created in the USA, leading to the one that ultimately one the war between Japan and the US. (I don't care of Russia made the largest one, because we made the first one).
Debate Round No. 2
TheRussian

Pro

I would like to note that my opponent has failed to follow the format that I established in Round 1. Also, my opponent did not provide any sources.

1. (Helicopter)-(Igor Sikorsky)-(1942): First two-seater helicopter. This design has been used for more than 60 years and accounts for 95% of helicopters produced worldwide. Changed transportation and warfare.
http://in.rbth.com...

2. (Transformer)-(Pavel Yablochkov)-(1882): Allowed for the "distribution of light" and for electricity to be safely transported long distances.
http://in.rbth.com...

3. (Electronic Television)-(Vladimir Zworykin)-(1923): First TV, allowed for further developments in entertainment.
http://in.rbth.com...
derplington

Con

Why would I need to cite the manhattan project, the telephone, and the plane. It is pretty obvious that what I said was true. Unless you were never taught these things, I saw them on wikipedia. Fine I'll put the year it was invented.

Wright flyer= 1903
The Telephone= 1876
The Nuclear Bomb= 1945

The light bulb- Thomas Edison- 1879- The lightbulb lit up the future without burning oil. This new thing revolutionized the future of cities, homes, electricity, etc. ----------www.livescience.com----------

Apollo 11- NASA scientists- 1969- The Apollo 11 spacecraft landed the first astronauts on the moon. After a long "battle", the USA defeated Russia in the race for space by being the first to land on the moon. --www.moonconnection.com/apollo_11.phtm

The Microwave- Percy Spencer- 1947- The microwave was accidentally invented in 1947. The invention was not originally for cooking anything, but came out that way. It was put onto the market and used for cooking soon after its discovery. This revolutionized the future of quick cooking tools.--------en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_oven---------
Debate Round No. 3
TheRussian

Pro

"The lightbulb lit up the future without burning oil."
Oil is burned to make electricity.
http://www.powerscorecard.org...

1. (Sputnik 1)-(Sergei Korolev and others)-(1957): First man-made satellite. Allowed for further advancements such as satellite GPS, internet etc.
http://www.ask.com...

2. (Petrol Cracking)-(Vladimir Shukhov)-(1891): Allows usable fuel to be produced out of petroleum. Would render most vehicles useless without this technique.
http://in.rbth.com...

3. (Synthetic Rubber)-(Sergei Lebedev)-(1913): Mainly used for tires for planes, cars, bicycles etc. Also used for seals, insulation, and medical devices.
http://in.rbth.com...
derplington

Con

You know what I meant by oil. You know, how everything was lit by oil lamps until the lightbulb. Lots of that oil came from whales...

The Gatling Gun - Dr.Richard J. Gatling- 1861- This gun was the first rapid fire gun, setting the path for modernized machine guns. https://www.princeton.edu...

The Tesla Coil - Nikola Tesla - 1891- The Tesla coil produced a high voltage, alternating low current that is still used today in AC adapters and other machines. http://en.wikipedia.org...

Kevlar - Stephanie Kwolek - 1966 - The durable fabric was used to protect American soldiers in battle, and replaced steel in racing tires. http://inventors.about.com...
Debate Round No. 4
TheRussian

Pro

"Lots of that oil came from whales..."
It was not oil, it was fat.

I will, I'm afraid, criticize my opponent's argument here in the last round.
Several of the inventions that my opponent listed are not very practical in use. For example, the Tesla coil. I read up on it and no where did it say that they are used for AC adapters. They are mainly used for "educational diplays".
http://en.wikipedia.org...

Also, Kevlar. Although it is used by soldiers, it is, after all, light body armor. Kevlar is not a very significant or world-changing invention.
http://www.kevlarbulletproofvest.com...

Although the inventions are impressive, they are not practical and do not have much impact on our lives or on humanity.

1. (Grain harvester)-(Andrei Vlasenko)-(1868): With the help of this invention, much more food could be harvested much faster. This means that larger populations could be supported. Created the reality of a consistently more food.
http://in.rbth.com...

2. (Spaceport)-(Vladimir Barmin)-(1950s): Site for launching and receiving spacecraft. Allows rovers, rockets and satellites to be launched into space. In reality, this is the first and greatest step to space.
http://en.wikipedia.org...

3. (Graphene)-(Andre Geim/Konstantin Novoselov)-(2010): The two inventors received the Nobel Peace Prize in 2010 for this unprecedented step in nanotechnology. Graphene is a carbon sheet that is literally one atom thick, but it is considered the lightest and strongest material on the planet (100 times stronger than steel). Graphene is also very versatile and may lead to the creation of bendable TV/phone screens. It can also be used for ultra filtration because virtually the only compound that can pass through it is water. Also opens a future for very efficient batteries.
http://www.graphenea.com...

Thank you for the debate.
derplington

Con

The Internet- ARPA- 1969 - What was the ARPANET then, lead to the internet. It was the first connection between two independent networks, at the Los Angeles University of California and Stanford research institute. This discover (after extra development) had become the start of the internet. (The Sputnik 1had a sort of internet connection, but was not the actual invention that set the path for the worldwide web, a network of internet networks). http://hnn.us...

Magnetis Resonance Imaging - Dr. Raymond Damadian - 1970- Created the first MRI scanner. He would patent MRI and use it in medical diagnosis. These scanners would be used to detect cancer within the body. This would allow people to survive cancer, without an actual cure, by killing it, or cutting it out. nventors.about.com/od/mstartinventions/a/MRI.htm

Laser Technology - Hughes Research Laboratories - 1960 - This laboratory discovered their laser technology, experimenting with ruby and noble gases to perfect their invention. These would eventually be used to read barcodes (which were also invented in America), DVD's, CD's, perform eye surgery, etc.

The Ac adapter also invented in america using Tesla's alternating current. Hence, AC.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by derplington 2 years ago
derplington
It's not like an American soldier is going to continue walking toward you if he or she is being shot. One shot isn't going to rip through.
Posted by TheRussian 2 years ago
TheRussian
You can watch videos of Kevlar being torn apart by AK-47s.
Posted by derplington 2 years ago
derplington
You seem to underestimate the power of Kevlar. It is made to take direct shots from guns such as the AK-47. It definitely stops larger rounds than 22's (why would they give the soldiers Kevlar if it only stopped 22's). What armor is made to eat up bullets anyway? If armor stops every projectile, how would that make them virtually invincible? It's not full body armor now is it.
Posted by TheRussian 2 years ago
TheRussian
Kevlar, like other light body armor, is not made to stop direct shots. It may protect you from smaller caliber pistol/rifle shots (like .22s), but is not made to stop larger rounds. Light body armor and helmets are made to protect you against shrapnel and other indirect forces. It may cause a bullet to ricochet off if it hits the helmet at an angle, but as mentioned, Kevlar is not made to just eat up bullets. You seem to over-estimate the power of light body armor. If it could stop bullets as you suggest, then soldiers would be virtually invincible.
Posted by derplington 2 years ago
derplington
Ok... 50 caliber is too much for kevlar (can stop lesser sniper bullets) but will stop Ak-47 rounds. (Unless it is a lightly layered helmet).
Posted by TheRussian 2 years ago
TheRussian
AK-47 rounds cut straight through Kevlar helmets, there is no way that Kevlar can stop a 50 cal.
Posted by TheRussian 2 years ago
TheRussian
It definitely does not stop a 50 cal round. 50 cal rounds are made for tearing apart engine blocks, a piece of Kevlar will not stop it.
Posted by derplington 2 years ago
derplington
You could survive a 50 caliber bullet to the chest wearing kevlar. Do you not know how strong it is or something? You would definitely feel pain when you're shot in the kevlar, but you would walk out alive.
Posted by TheRussian 2 years ago
TheRussian
Yes, but not everyone is a soldier. And chances of it saving you from a bullet is even smaller. You'll be lucky to survive a direct hit from a bullet with a broken rib or two.
Posted by derplington 2 years ago
derplington
Not American? Are you kidding. And Kevlar's pretty significant if it saved your life!
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Vote Placed by Seeginomikata 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro didn't really seem to understand the format of the debate. From what I understood, the point was to come up with the most significant inventions that are well-known. All of pro inventions are well-known and known to be important. However, some of con's inventions were 1. not even American, 2. not noteworthy. Good job to pro for pointing out the second point, on such inventions as kevlar.
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Reasons for voting decision: Con's failure to follow the proscribed format didn't seem conduct worthy, and he corrected. Sourcing was equal enough--and, while nice and helpful, was almost unnecessary for most of these. S&G was equal enough, I suppose. For arguments: This is basically an wholly subjective determination. But the ARPANET/Internet one was probably the one that stood out the most to me--particularly since that's the only reason we're here right now. So arguments to Con. As always, happy to clarify this RFD.