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Dirty-Morgs
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beachy
Con (against)

SJWs are bad

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Started: 11/30/2016 Category: Politics
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Dirty-Morgs

Pro

I belive that Social Justice is bad first round is for acceptance only
beachy

Con

I accept.
Debate Round No. 1
Dirty-Morgs

Pro

Social Justice Is a evil racist and sexist belief used by SJWs.

Sjws claim they hate guns and that they are dangerous. they love guns but only when guns used against there politcal allies. example joseph stallin (killer of 20 million) and the IRS targeting of conservative groups and orginazations

scoial justice means that because he is something he must be something alse. Example he is white therefore he must be privileged

In history social justice has killed many people

Use and examples of Social justice in history

Hitler: killed 11 million people 6 million jews. he said All jews ruin the economy because they are jews.

Stalin: killed 20 million people most political enemies Like SJWs only allowed free speach for one cause the others got shut down example college campuses

Rwanda genocide:Killed 800,000 to 2 million peole said tutsis were bad because they were not hutus

Andrew jackson: Moved people on to reservations said stuff like all American Indians are rapist and will scalp you

Andrew Johnson: made the jim crow laws that said all black people need to be seperate because they are different and that they are rapist

Social justice is one o the most evil things ever created It is like me saying all muslims are terrorists because some of them are. social justice warriors and 3rd wave feminists say teach men not to rape it is like saying teach women not to commit fruad related crimes because they are more likely to do so.
beachy

Con

"Sjws claim they hate guns and that they are dangerous. they love guns but only when guns used against there politcal allies. example joseph stallin (killer of 20 million) and the IRS targeting of conservative groups and orginazations"

Joseph Stalin and the IRS and not SJWs.

"In history social justice has killed many people"
Social justice does not kill people. You don't know what social justice is. I will write why I am for social justice.

1. Social justice calls for accountability. For example, in social justice "racism" is defined as widely held attitudes, or beliefs held by the majority of oppressive people that result in widespread, systematic discrimination against the minority group. By this definition, people of color cannot be racist. Since the oppressors are the ones that are creating the system of oppression, social justice calls the oppressors to dismantle the systems of oppression.
http://everydayfeminism.com...
http://www.alternet.org...
http://everydayfeminism.com...

I also recommend this social justice subreddit to learn more.
reddit.com/r/socialjustice101

Basically, social justice calls for people to examine their own prejudices and beliefs and to try to change them so people can be treated fairly and have equal opportunities without regards to race, gender, etc. at one point in history, women couldn't vote. People had to change their attitudes

2. Most social justice work is against racism.
http://everydayfeminism.com...
http://everydayfeminism.com...

I cited a few articles in point #1.

3. Social justice is peaceful movement.
I never heard of violence in the movement, but I know some are extreme in their beliefs. However this does not speak for all SJWs.
Debate Round No. 2
Dirty-Morgs

Pro

I agree with you 100 I belive that racism,sexism,islamaphobia ect is evil. You said "racism" is defined as widely held attitudes, or beliefs held by the majority of oppressive people that result in widespread, systematic discrimination against the minority group." There is no system unless you count the made up terms male privilage and white privilage wich I will debunk later. Also you said people of color can't be racist becuase they are a minoroty by this defenition and using what you said but applying it to something alse I by your defenition can say the KKK is not racist because they are a minoroty. Saying that is idiotic becausethey are racist and evil and same as the black panthers. There is no systematic racist people just say it because they want to feel good about them selves so they make up a fake racism so they can blame the world instead of trying to change beliefs of actual racists

I will debunk male privilage and I will debunk white privilage in a latter argument.

*Men are expected to pick up checks on dates.

* You’re more likely to graduate from college if you’re female.

* The homicide rate is much higher for men than women.

* You’re more likely to get the kids after a divorce.

*More likely to commit suicide if male

In the university of York people tried to create a international men's day (there is a international women's day) to deal with problems like male suicide rates it was shut down by feminists. one day later a male student committed suicide.

Wage gap

Men and women have the same pay and statistics that claim that women are paid less are not looking at. Earnings and wages are different things

Wages
Jobs
Work Hours
Time off
Bonuses
Efectiveness at compleating a job
How hard they work
Attitude at work
Cooperation
On task
How danerous the job is
Vacationing
Leaving to give birth
Ect.

beachy

Con

1. There is a system.
http://www.alternet.org...

Earl Sampson was stopped 258 times by the police in four years. All those times he was accused or ARRESTED for trespassing at the store where he works.
http://www.reuters.com...

A few years ago ABC's "What would You Do?" did an experiment where they had 3 white kids spray paint, jump on and destroy a car for three hours. Only one person called 911. Then they had 3 black kids vandalize, jump on and destroy a car for three hours. Ten people called 911. ONE 911 call vs TEN 911 calls. Then at the end of part one someone called 911 TWICE saying 2 black men SLEEPING in a car "look like they're possibly getting ready to rob somebody".
https://www.youtube.com...
https://www.youtube.com...

2. The pay gap exists.
http://www.aauw.org...
A Yale study had researches sent out fake applications to top, research-intensive universities in the United States. All applications were identical, except have were named John and half were named Jennifer. Professors were asked to evaluate how competent this student was, how likely they would be to hire the student, how much they would pay this student, and how willing they would be to mentor the student.
The professors were more likely to rate John as more competent and pay John a higher salary. Female professors showed bias too. http://www.yalescientific.org...
http://news.yale.edu...
http://gender.stanford.edu...
This study only focused on STEM fields, but the 1st link talks about statistic that pay gap exists, even with wages, jobs, work hours, etc. taken to account.

3. Social justice cares about mens problems.
http://everydayfeminism.com...
http://everydayfeminism.com...
http://everydayfeminism.com...
http://everydayfeminism.com...
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Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Dirty-Morgs 4 days ago
Dirty-Morgs
I agree with you the Germans were programmed to hate the Jews but the way they did it was through social justice. They said that all Jews ruined the economy,were thieves, were the reason they lost ww1 (they got creative for this one),Greedy and selfish they used social justice through propaganda and lies saying because one Jew must have done something bad all of them have and we must punish them all. This is much the same way as sjws saying because one man raped a women all of them have
Posted by Tom-The-Hypocrit 4 days ago
Tom-The-Hypocrit
sorry about the spelling. I h8 the spell check in this, word is easier. Please don't tag as hate comments, because this is a debating site and I am simply helping the Pro guy.
Posted by Tom-The-Hypocrit 4 days ago
Tom-The-Hypocrit
Basically, social justice calls for people to examine their own prejudices and beliefs and to try to change them so people can be treated fairly and have equal opportunities without regards to race, gender, etc. at one point in history, women couldn't vote.
Ok, let's break this down. You are talking abut to very different things here. Law (women weren't allowed to vote) and PREJUDICES AND BELIEFS!!! Laws can be changed are are changed for the better to suit society. I as much as the next person hate to see girls sexualised and EVERYONE agrees with women voting.

But what are these problems you speak of? You have listed nonw. I can think of no laws which are anti-minority, in fact more is done to support the miority than the majority. So, why are there SJW's? Because people feels the need to change others Prejudices and Beliefs.

This is all you have to omplain about now, just a couple of thoughts possibly exemplified in some miniscule part of the community. You have 0 factual evidence because now you have ventured into the realm of shadows and illusions and now are complaining everytime you see something that looks like a KKK hat. As a young person I don't want racists or SJW's anywhere in the world by the time I grow up. You are polluting the younger generatins to belive there is racism even when they have never seen it before. There maybbe racism now, but what about in 10 years time? will we still be leaping out at the bogeyman in the white overalls? Or will we finally wake up.
Posted by Tom-The-Hypocrit 4 days ago
Tom-The-Hypocrit
"In history social justice has killed many people"
Social justice does not kill people.

Neither did Josef Goebbels propaganda machine. The germans programmed to hate jews killed people. See a correlation. Similarities? The ideas you are pedalling are not peaceful. They are devised to sound peaceful, but when people go to take action on these ideas, the only action avaliable for them to take is unlawful and unpeaceful.
Posted by Tom-The-Hypocrit 4 days ago
Tom-The-Hypocrit
Ill have to apologise, i skipped a few lines when reading through your very well structured essay. You guys gave yourselves a definition for racism? You took it upon yourselves to change the definition of a word and then make everyone confrom to this. As well as all their other virtues, SJW's are arrogant and self-absorbed.
Posted by Tom-The-Hypocrit 4 days ago
Tom-The-Hypocrit
Basically, social justice calls for people to examine their own prejudices and beliefs and to try to change them- You have no clue what my beliefs could possibly be. If I had some beliefs that you would find displeasing and you decided to change that, that would make you a terrorist. Yu have no right to examine other peoples beliefs. You are too concerned about other people to look at yourself. Stop now.
Posted by Tom-The-Hypocrit 4 days ago
Tom-The-Hypocrit
Oh My God. SOS. I give up. People of colour can't be racist. Totally fuckign wrong.

Poplw of colour can be racist by discriminating against other colours according to their race. Holy you need an IQ test and some period pads. Hopeless
Posted by Dirty-Morgs 4 days ago
Dirty-Morgs
Tell me a good one
Posted by HeavenlyPanda 4 days ago
HeavenlyPanda
Beachy already won the round before it even started.

"SJWs are bad"

The plural implies that all of them are bad. If beachy finds one that isn't bad, then he wins.
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