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Nerd_in_a_Trenchcoat
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STALIN is secretly Miley Cyrus

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Started: 12/11/2013 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Nerd_in_a_Trenchcoat

Pro

Lately, the DDO member STALIN has attracted a large amount of negative attention related to his spamming addiction. He has also been seen exhibiting behaviors similar to that of a Troll, as well as posting up several polls, concerning him and only him. From this, we may only draw one conclusion.

The Debate.org user STALIN is secretly the popular musician Miley Cyrus.

Please note that, contrary to the oh-so-serious subject matter, this debate may, at times veer into the silly. Please take this into account before accepting. Now come on, let's expose STALIN for the twerking, tongue-flopping attention wh*ore that (s)he really is.
janetsanders733

Con

I accept, State your case.
Debate Round No. 1
Nerd_in_a_Trenchcoat

Pro

Alright, let's-a-go. Stalin is secretly Miley Cyrus. Ahem.

I shall refer to STALIN as a "she", partially to assert my case and partially to adhere to Rule of the Internet #34.
http://rulesoftheinternet.com...

Part I: Stalin isn't Stalin
As you may know, STALIN is a Debate.org user who generally operates under the guise of the (in)famous dictator Joseph Stalin. The logical first step to proving my assertion is to disprove the idea that STALIN is, actually, the real Stalin. I shall do this by examining various parts of Stalin's DDO account, and pointing out discrepancies.

Birth Date: DDO Stalin's birthday is April 25, 1997. Real Stalin was born December 18th, 1878.

Education: DDO Stalin claims to have attended "some college". Real Stalin dropped out of seminary.

Location: DDO Stalin claims to reside in The Kremlin. As you probably know, this is an armored complex in the middle of
Moscow. What you may not know is that Stalin is buried a short distance outside the Kremlin. This cannot be disputed, due to the fact that, prior to his burial, Real Stalin was embalmed and placed next to the corpse of Vladimir Lenin, available to the public. Stalin is dead, and his body was on display for eight years.

Dead/Alive Status: Real Stalin is dead. Dead people don't have DDO accounts that regularly spam polls.

Part II: Stalin is, actually, Miley Cyrus
Now, you may be thinking, "Well, now we know that STALIN isn't really Stalin. What makes you think he's Miley Cyrus?" This is where it gets tricky. Prepare yourself for a storm of Debate awesomeness.

Spamming: Stalin has, with good reason, been accused of spamming requests to his friends list, asking them to vote on polls, as many as five times a day. Take a look at this page.
http://www.debate.org...
And now compare it with this other, equally spamtastic twitter feed.
https://twitter.com...
See any similarities?

Subliminal Messages: As complete and utter Miley Cyrus's guise of Stalin is, the human mind is a complicated thing. For the same reason that Obama hides satanic messages in all his speeches, Miley/Stalin hid references to her dual personalities in both her songs and her debates. Observe.
Miley's official DoB is November 23, 1992, or 11-3-92. Stalin's birthday, according to her DDO page, is April 25, 1997, or 4-25-97. When you take the times 0:11, 0:03, 1:32, 0:04, 0:25, and 1:35, from her popular music video "Wrecking Ball", you get the following pictures.

0:11
http://postimg.org...
0:03
http://postimg.org...
1:32
http://postimg.org...
0:04
http://postimg.org...
0:25
http://postimg.org...
1:35
http://postimg.org...

Can you see that? Miley is clearly mouthing the word STALIN! Crazy.
But if you need any more proof, just look at STALIN's debates.
http://www.debate.org...
If you peruse them, you shall notice a trend. At the beginning, STALIN spent all of his time debating about WW2, and Especially the Eastern Front. STALIN was polite, courteous, and knowledgable about his chosen topic. She wasn't the subject of Polls on the front page of DDO, but she wasn't an unknown. There were no reports of trolling,
Fast forward to December 2013. STALIN is now one of the most hated trolls on DDO. She spams, hates, and has nearly abandoned the last vestiges of his old life. She has traded decency for fame, likability for notoriety.

Does this sad story sound familiar?
Here's Miley Cyrus, circa 2008.
http://images.fanpop.com...

Now compare it with a more recent picture, promoting her album "Bangerz"
http://www.billboard.com...

Yes, once she was Hannah Montana, but now Miley is nothing but a troll. Miley completed her celebrity transformation at the VMAs, while her debate account lost its integrity the moment she began spamming polls out of it.

Enough, I say. The similarities are too obvious, the subliminal messages too blunt. STALIN is Miley Cyrus.

Now refute THAT, Stalin groupie.
janetsanders733

Con


Part I: Stalin isn't Stalin
As you may know, STALIN is a Debate.org user who generally operates under the guise of the (in)famous dictator Joseph Stalin. The logical first step to proving my assertion is to disprove the idea that STALIN is, actually, the real Stalin. I shall do this by examining various parts of Stalin's DDO account, and pointing out discrepancies.

Birth Date: DDO Stalin's birthday is April 25, 1997. Real Stalin was born December 18th, 1878.

Education: DDO Stalin claims to have attended "some college". Real Stalin dropped out of seminary.
Okay what’s your point? Obviously Pro does not realize that Con is not claiming to be the real Stalin.
Location: DDO Stalin claims to reside in The Kremlin. As you probably know, this is an armored complex in the middle of
Moscow. What you may not know is that Stalin is buried a short distance outside the Kremlin. This cannot be disputed, due to the fact that, prior to his burial, Real Stalin was embalmed and placed next to the corpse of Vladimir Lenin, available to the public. Stalin is dead, and his body was on display for eight years.

No, DDO Stalin does not claim to live in Moscow. DDO Stalin lives in California. He moved from Siberia when he was 5.

Dead/Alive Status: Real Stalin is dead. Dead people don't have DDO accounts that regularly spam polls.
Nah really? Did you ever think that DDO is an impersonator?
Part II: Stalin is, actually, Miley Cyrus
Now, you may be thinking, "Well, now we know that STALIN isn't really Stalin. What makes you think he's Miley Cyrus?" This is where it gets tricky. Prepare yourself for a storm of Debate awesomeness.

Spamming: Stalin has, with good reason, been accused of spamming requests to his friends list, asking them to vote on polls, as many as five times a day. Take a look at this page.
http://www.debate.org......
And now compare it with this other, equally spamtastic twitter feed.
https://twitter.com......
See any similarities?
No, I don’t see any similarities, nor does anybody else. That link is just to the twitter homepage. What is Pro trying to prove here?
Subliminal Messages: As complete and utter Miley Cyrus's guise of Stalin is, the human mind is a complicated thing. For the same reason that Obama hides satanic messages in all his speeches, Miley/Stalin hid references to her dual personalities in both her songs and her debates. Observe.
Miley's official DoB is November 23, 1992, or 11-3-92. Stalin's birthday, according to her DDO page, is April 25, 1997, or 4-25-97. When you take the times 0:11, 0:03, 1:32, 0:04, 0:25, and 1:35, from her popular music video "Wrecking Ball", you get the following pictures.
Okay? They obviously don’t have similar birthdays. If Miley Cyrus is born on November 23,1992 and Stalin is born on April 25,1997, then obviously they aren’t in any way shape or form closely related. Pro’s argument fails.
0:11
http://postimg.org......
0:03
http://postimg.org......
1:32
http://postimg.org......
0:04
http://postimg.org......
0:25
http://postimg.org......
1:35
http://postimg.org......

Can you see that? Miley is clearly mouthing the word STALIN! Crazy.
But if you need any more proof, just look at STALIN's debates.
http://www.debate.org......
If you peruse them, you shall notice a trend. At the beginning, STALIN spent all of his time debating about WW2, and Especially the Eastern Front. STALIN was polite, courteous, and knowledgable about his chosen topic. She wasn't the subject of Polls on the front page of DDO, but she wasn't an unknown. There were no reports of trolling,
Fast forward to December 2013. STALIN is now one of the most hated trolls on DDO. She spams, hates, and has nearly abandoned the last vestiges of his old life. She has traded decency for fame, likability for notoriety.

Does this sad story sound familiar?
Here's Miley Cyrus, circa 2008.
http://images.fanpop.com......

Now compare it with a more recent picture, promoting her album "Bangerz"
http://www.billboard.com......

Yes, once she was Hannah Montana, but now Miley is nothing but a troll. Miley completed her celebrity transformation at the VMAs, while her debate account lost its integrity the moment she began spamming polls out of it.

Enough, I say. The similarities are too obvious, the subliminal messages too blunt. STALIN is Miley Cyrus.

Now refute THAT, Stalin groupie.

Uh Miley Cyrus is not a debater, she is an entertainer….Pro must be high or on drugs. How is Miley Cyrus at all Analagous to Stalin? She isn’t Pro is on drugs and has no idea what he’s talking about.

In fact I can prove it to. He commented on this debate. Here are his exact words below:
Posted by Nerd_in_a_Trenchcoat 3 days ago
Nerd_in_a_Trenchcoat It's time for the people to know the truth, Miley.
Admittedly, this debate sounded a lot more funny when I was high last night. We'll see how it goes.
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Posted by STALIN 3 days ago
Obviously he was high when he made this, so he has no idea what he is talking about.

First Conclusion:
Pro has no idea what he is talking about. He was apparently on drugs and his brain was handicapped from the drugs. Please reconsider voting.
Debate Round No. 2
Nerd_in_a_Trenchcoat

Pro

Thanks do responding. I will clarify my reasoning
First off, I would like to say that I was not, contrary to your and STALIN's perception of things, on drugs when I wrote this. I had consumed a small amount of Marijuana prior to posting in round one, but it opened my mind to see the "truth" of the matter. Secondly, although this debate isn't a "Troll" debate, it's definitely not a serious one either. Really, if Miley wants to keep her DDO profile private, that's up to her. Just lighten up a little, will you? Weed would probably do you a lot of good right now. :-)
As you didn't actually provide any arguments of your own, I hope you won't mind if I bolster mine with a few additional observations. First, however, I'll point out some areas where you could use some clarification.
"No, DDO Stalin does not claim to live in Moscow. DDO Stalin lives in California. He moved from Siberia when he was 5."
That's not what it says on her profile. But it does make since. Guess who lives in California? Miley Cyrus. Suspicious, hmm?

No, I don"t see any similarities, nor does anybody else. That link is just to the twitter homepage. What is Pro trying to prove here?
Thant link is supposed to be to Miley Cyrus's twitter feed. I don't know why the link doesn't work, so just Google "Miley Cyrus Twitter", and click on the top result.

"Okay? They obviously don"t have similar birthdays. If Miley Cyrus is born on November 23,1992 and Stalin is born on April 25,1997, then obviously they aren"t in any way shape or form closely related. Pro"s argument fails."
I wasn't arguing that their birthdays were similar. Also, who puts their real birthday on a debate site? Who believes I'm 100 years old, and still able to write raps about smoking Weed?

"Uh Miley Cyrus is not a debater, she is an entertainer".Pro must be high or on drugs. How is Miley Cyrus at all Analagous to Stalin? She isn"t Pro is on drugs and has no idea what he"s talking about."
Besides the atrocious grammar present in this passage, Con shows that, while he was perfectly capable of pasting my argument into the debate, he didn't actually get around to reading it. If he had, he would likely notice the disturbing similarities between Miley Cyrus the singer, and STALIN, the debate spammer. For the benefit of anyone who, like Janet here, has difficulty reading and comprehending the English Language, I will make a nice, easy-to-understand Venn diagram of their similarities. Venn diagrams are fun.
http://postimg.org...
Now look at that, and tell me you don't find it just a little odd. If what you say is true, and STALIN is NOT Miley Cyrus, there seems to be a little too much overlap for this to be a mere coincidence. In my line of work, we don't believe in coincidences. Even if those coincidences are discovered while I'm baked. For the second time, refute THAT, STALIN groupie!
janetsanders733

Con


First off, I would like to say that I was not, contrary to your and STALIN's perception of things, on drugs when I wrote this. I had consumed a small amount of Marijuana prior to posting in round one, but it opened my mind to see the "truth" of the matter. Secondly, although this debate isn't a "Troll" debate, it's definitely not a serious one either. Really, if Miley wants to keep her DDO profile private, that's up to her. Just lighten up a little, will you? Weed would probably do you a lot of good right now. :-)



Okay? Pro just admitted that he had consumed a small amount of marijuana prior to round 1, I don’t think Miley has a DDO. She is a celebrity LOL.


As you didn't actually provide any arguments of your own, I hope you won't mind if I bolster mine with a few additional observations. First, however, I'll point out some areas where you could use some clarification.


"No, DDO Stalin does not claim to live in Moscow. DDO Stalin lives in California. He moved from Siberia when he was 5."


That's not what it says on her profile. But it does make since. Guess who lives in California? Miley Cyrus. Suspicious, hmm?


Actually Pro, I was wrong on the location that STALIN had told me. He sent me a message that says he lives in Washington State, so Miley can’t be STALIN because she lives in California.


No, I don"t see any similarities, nor does anybody else. That link is just to the twitter homepage. What is Pro trying to prove here?


Thant link is supposed to be to Miley Cyrus's twitter feed. I don't know why the link doesn't work, so just Google "Miley Cyrus Twitter", and click on the top result.


Okay? Pro needs to clarify what’s on Miley Cyrus’s Twitter Feed.


"Okay? They obviously don"t have similar birthdays. If Miley Cyrus is born on November 23,1992 and Stalin is born on April 25,1997, then obviously they aren"t in any way shape or form closely related. Pro"s argument fails."


I wasn't arguing that their birthdays were similar. Also, who puts their real birthday on a debate site? Who believes I'm 100 years old, and still able to write raps about smoking Weed?


Well Pro, actually did. That is why he wrote two different birthdays. One for Miley, and the other for STALIN. Is that not comparing?



"Uh Miley Cyrus is not a debater, she is an entertainer".Pro must be high or on drugs. How is Miley Cyrus at all Analagous to Stalin? She isn"t Pro is on drugs and has no idea what he"s talking about."


Besides the atrocious grammar present in this passage, Con shows that, while he was perfectly capable of pasting my argument into the debate, he didn't actually get around to reading it. If he had, he would likely notice the disturbing similarities between Miley Cyrus the singer, and STALIN, the debate spammer. For the benefit of anyone who, like Janet here, has difficulty reading and comprehending the English Language, I will make a nice, easy-to-understand Venn diagram of their similarities. Venn diagrams are fun.


http://postimg.org......


Now look at that, and tell me you don't find it just a little odd. If what you say is true, and STALIN is NOT Miley Cyrus, there seems to be a little too much overlap for this to be a mere coincidence. In my line of work, we don't believe in coincidences. Even if those coincidences are discovered while I'm baked. For the second time, refute THAT, STALIN groupie!



So pro admits, he is at least a little high when he makes some of these arguments.



Well first off, I made A’s and B’s in High School English, so I know how to write. When you copied and pasted my quote, you put it into quotation marks. However, I admit I make grammar mistakes as well.


In fact, Pro made several grammar mistakes in his debate here. He capitalized subordinating conjunctions like the word that.


I know how to read and write effectively. This Venn Diagram that Pro uses is not true. How does Pro know that Miley spams people in real-life. How does he know that Miley is a troll?



There are no similarities to Miley and STALIN. I rest my case.


Debate Round No. 3
Nerd_in_a_Trenchcoat

Pro

Nerd_in_a_Trenchcoat forfeited this round.
janetsanders733

Con

I see that my opponent has ff. This should not count against him in anyway. Remember to vote fairly, for who you thought did the best in our debate.

Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by Nerd_in_a_Trenchcoat 2 years ago
Nerd_in_a_Trenchcoat
Sorry for the ff, I was in the middle of some nasty relationship problems, and I had to take a break for social networking. If JanetSanders wants to finish the debate, that's OK with me, but if not, I understand.
Posted by Romanii 2 years ago
Romanii
Whether or not STALIN is actually Miley Cyrus, he/she is probably really enjoying having an entire debate about himself/herself...
Posted by Nerd_in_a_Trenchcoat 2 years ago
Nerd_in_a_Trenchcoat
@Raymaster The forced over-seriousness of this debate has been resolved. Check a few comments down.
"is Nerd_in_a_Trenchcoat Justin Bieber?"
Sh*t, you got me. Time to go piss in a janitor bucket and make billions of dollars off it.
Posted by STALIN 2 years ago
STALIN
sounds good
Posted by raymaster 2 years ago
raymaster
This debate is being taken way too seriously. It's a stupid topic, so lighten up and have what fun you can with it.

Oh, and if trolling the internet means you're an annoying celebrity, then is Nerd_in_a_Trenchcoat Justin Bieber?
Posted by janetsanders733 2 years ago
janetsanders733
@2D ........My answer to you ___________________________________________________________________________________________
Posted by 2-D 2 years ago
2-D
Janet is obviously too high on Jesus to continue this debate.
Posted by janetsanders733 2 years ago
janetsanders733
@Nerdinatrenchcoat no problem, let's do this.
Posted by Nerd_in_a_Trenchcoat 2 years ago
Nerd_in_a_Trenchcoat
@Janet Thanks, bro. It says right there in the opening!
"Please note that, contrary to the oh-so-serious subject matter, this debate may, at times veer into the silly. Please take this into account before accepting."
I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough. Sometimes sarcasm just doesn't translate well when you're on mobile, and can't use italics.
Posted by janetsanders733 2 years ago
janetsanders733
@NerdinaTrenchcoat sorry, I thought you were being serious here. Can you forgive me? What do you say we go ahead and have a fun debate?
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro loses conduct due to Pro FF in the final round. Arguments goes to Pro since Con seemed to be taking it entirely seriously, I don't think he realized this was supposed to be a troll debate.
Vote Placed by STALIN 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Good debate to both sides. Conduct goes to Con due to the fact that Pro FF a round and was high when making this debate. I think its pretty simple to see who won this debate. Pro talked about how the info on my profile indicates that I am no Stalin. If he is using the info on my profile to explain how I am not Stalin, then he must use this info to explain how I am Miley. And the info on my profile alone proves that I am not Miley. Therefore, Con wins this debate. I'm not exactly sure what Pro was thinking when he put up a bunch of pictures of Miley's face. Those pictures prove nothing. I understand that this is a troll debate, however it is clear that by troll standards, Con wins. Con took this debate somewhat seriously. Pro treated this debate like he treats most others. This was a rather sad debate but Con undoubtedly wins.