Saints are not unconscious after passing away!
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The friends of God who were faithful to Christ, are not dead in any sense when leaving this world.
I invite respectful believers to provide proofs of a counter argument.
Jesus himself taught how the friendship with God embarrasses death. For instance,
«Now about the dead rising—have you not read in the Book of Moses, in the account of the burning bush, how God said to him, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’[a]? 27 He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!».
In the same sense, he described Abraham hosting Lazarus and dialoguing (completely conscious) with the wealthy man; again, he ignored death when he promised paradise to the criminal of the cross to his right (from that day on). Besides, the apostles saw Elijah and Moses speaking to Jesus.
There are many verses that lead to conclude death does not rule on the friends of Christ. Thus, I assure John 3,16 is literal.
I think you made a mistake. In this challenge I invited believers (a believer in Christianity usually doesn't question that we have a biological life along with a spiritual one).
But qouting John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.", it seems like god is promising an AFTER life. Therefore, the physical body DIES, but the after life soul lives on.
Based on the definition of death " dying;
Based on the definition of death, it is describing the PHYSICAL death. However, god promisies a SPIRITUAL immortality, not a physical one. Therefore, saints DO die.Because death is describing the PHYSICAL, the end of life. So, if your soul lives forever, your still dead because your physical body has decayed.
We made an agreement, then. We agree the organic body of the friends of God die, although they live on as a soul.
There are too few believers who would argue against the physical death of biological beings.
Well, nice debating with you
See you around!
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