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Same Sex Marriage

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Started: 4/18/2013 Category: Society
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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madelyn2

Pro

I believe everyone should be able to do what they want. One day all of this protesting against gay marriage will look just as horrible as protesting against segregation. Laws should not be based on religion.
xXCryptoXx

Con


Marriage and Procreation


What makes marriage what it is? What makes marriage special so that it should only be obtained by man and woman together? Procreation. Normally the argument in support of gay marriage goes along the lines of, “They really love each other so they should get married!” If marriage was about the emotional connection then why wouldn’t the two people simply stay as a non-marital couple? There is no point in recognizing a relationship that is only out of love. Obviously, only man and woman can procreate. Without procreation, a society could not continue to live. The reason the man and woman get the marriage benefits is because they are doing society a “favor” by procreating and allowing the society to live. This is something homosexuals cannot do. Procreation and the proper raising of children is at the base of marriage; it is the main reason marriage exists. This fits the traditional view of marriage, which is between man and woman. Gay marriage gives absolutely no value to society at all as a whole. Because at the heart of marriage is also the proper raising of children, infertile heterosexual couples can and should also be able to get married. Even though they cannot procreate, they can adopt and raise children for society, therefore they still provide society benefits.



Government has a role in marriage, however that role should be limited


There is a limited role that the government can, and cannot do with marriage. Hopefully the government would never go as far as to legalize marriages based around pedophilia, bestiality, having multiple spouses, ect. In order to preserve the sanctity and meaning of marriage, the government must draw the line somewhere on who gets married. It logical to see that that line should be drawn at marriage between a man and a woman. Reasoning behind this can be seen in my procreation argument. Marriages between man and woman benefit society while not complicating society like having multiple spouses could do.



Parenting among homosexuals

"Homosexually-behaving adults inherently suffer significantly and substantially higher rates of partner relationship breakups, psychological disorder, suicidal ideation, suicidal attempt, completed suicide, conduct disorder, and substance abuse; therefore, as a group, households with a resident homosexually-behaving adult are substantially less capable of providing the best psychologically stable and secure home environments needed by foster children."(1)


A study taken from the Journal of Human sexuality (2) concludes the following:


1. 1. The presence of a father reduces the chances that the child will participate in criminal activities and reduces the chances the child will take drugs


2. Lesbian mothers make children more sexually active. Fathers help the child stay chaste.


3. 3. “Boys need fathers to help form sexual identities, and need mothers in order to interact with the opposite sex.” (3)


4. People have the best sex lives when raised by heterosexual parents.


5. 5. Fathers help children with interaction among other people.


6. 6. When going through puberty, the father teaches the son “how to be assertive and how to be a “man”.” (3)





Homosexuals and Constitutional Rights




To think that homosexuals have any less rights than heterosexuals is complete balderdash.


We can see how homosexuals have the exact same rights as heterosexuals below:


1. 1. Homosexuals cannot marry someone of the same sex


2. 2. Heterosexuals cannot marry someone of the same sex


3. 3. Homosexuals can marry someone of the opposite sex


4. 4. Heterosexuals can marry someone of the opposite sex


5. Other than that they both share the exact same rights given by the constitution, amendments ect.


6. Therefore homosexuals and heterosexuals have the same rights.



I also realize that some gay marriage advocates understand this; they simply want an extension of rights for all people, homosexual and heterosexual. However, homosexuals do not deserve the right to marry because they cannot benefit society in any way. Therefore there should be no extension of rights for gay marriage at all.





(1(1) http://catholiceducation.org...


(2 (2)Journal of Human Sexuality


(3(3) Quote from Fanboy in his debate, “Same-sex marriages should be legal in the United States.”








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Debate Round No. 1
madelyn2

Pro

madelyn2 forfeited this round.
xXCryptoXx

Con

Extend all arguments

I will now take this time to thank my opponent for the debate.

So, eh, thanks for the debate! Also, good luck!

Derp.

I would have said this in my opening arguments but I ran out of character space and had to cut a few things.

Debate Round No. 2
madelyn2

Pro

madelyn2 forfeited this round.
xXCryptoXx

Con

Extend all le arguments!
Debate Round No. 3
madelyn2

Pro

madelyn2 forfeited this round.
xXCryptoXx

Con

Lol okay.

Good debate I guess...
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