The Instigator
Stupidape
Pro (for)
The Contender
kasamsudharshan
Con (against)

Same sex marriage.

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/6/2017 Category: Society
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Debating Period
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Stupidape

Pro

Burden of proof will be upon Con, my opponent 51%. This is due to the nature of morals, actions are considered moral until proven otherwise. Just as a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty.

Structure
Round one Acceptance and definitions
Round two arguments, don't respond to opponent's argument yet.
Round three rebuttals respond directly to opponent's round two.
Round four defense respond directly to opponent's round three.

Definitions, use common definitions unless otherwise agreed upon.

Sex
"2.
a. Either of the two divisions, designated female and male, by which most organisms are classified on the basis of their reproductive organs and functions: How do you determine the sex of a lobster?" [0]

Gay "1. Of, relating to, or having a sexual orientation to persons of the same sex." [1]

Marriage "1.
a. A legal union between two persons that confers certain privileges and entails certain obligations of each person to the other, formerly restricted in the United States to a union between a woman and a man." [2]

Thanks in advance for accepting the debate. Previous debate for reference. [3]

Sources.
0. http://www.thefreedictionary.com...
1. http://www.thefreedictionary.com...
2. http://www.thefreedictionary.com...
3. http://www.debate.org...
kasamsudharshan

Con

same sex marriage not so good as you think it is so improper way
Debate Round No. 1
Stupidape

Pro

Round 2 Arguments

Outline

I. Benefits of marriage
II. Being Gay is not a choice
III. Financial gain to government
IV. Separation of church and state
V. Sources


I. Benefits of marriage

The first question, is why would someone want to get married? The answer is there are 1,138 benefits, rights, and protections available for married couples by federal law. Therefore, there are many logical reasons why people would seek to reap these benefits.

"There are 1,138 benefits, rights and protections available to married couples in federal law alone" [4]


II. Being gay is not a choice

This might sound silly, but you can't just will yourself to be straight or gay.

"Most scientists would disagree. Years of research suggest that people can't change their sexual orientation because they want to, and that trying can cause mental anguish. What's more, some studies suggest that being gay may have a genetic or biological basis. " [5]

"Gay conversion therapy, as it is known, supposedly helps gay people overcome same-sex attractions. But mainstream psychologists say the therapy is ineffective, unethical and often harmful, exacerbating anxiety and self-hatred among those treated for what is not a mental disorder." [6]

That means by denying gays marriage we are practicing discrimination. Discrimination is unjust.


III. Financial gain to government

Marriages licenses are a source of revenue. This relieves tax burdens off of straights. Therefore, straight people gain a financial advantage from gay marriages.


IV. Separation of church and state

Almost all arguments against gays seem to originate from religion. Yet, the separation of church and state disallows religion to interfere with government affairs. Banning gay marriages on religious grounds would be a violation of the first amendment.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" [7]

By banning gay marriages based upon a religion, congress would be respecting an establishment of religion.

V. Sources
4. http://gaymarriage.procon.org...
5. http://www.livescience.com...
6. http://www.livescience.com...
7. https://www.law.cornell.edu...
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Posted by Stupidape 1 year ago
Stupidape
I created another debate in case my opponent forfeits early.

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Posted by Stupidape 1 year ago
Stupidape
Using another term seems similar to segregation, separate but equal is inherently unequal.
Posted by kasavayal 1 year ago
kasavayal
To make progeny
man has sex, then homo sex
is an irony

Let us use the term marriage only for union between a male and a female. Let same sex proponents use some other term for their relationship.
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