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cfaith
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Danielle
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Same-sex "unions"

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Danielle
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/15/2016 Category: Religion
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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cfaith

Con

Homosexual relations are immoral (Romans 1: 26-27).

They can't reproduce, and lead to all other types of sexual perversions.
Danielle

Pro

Thanks for the challenge...

First, I'd like to point out that the resolution is unclear. Same-sex unions can and do exist. Period.

On gay marriage: the government doesn't determine laws based on what the Bible says. Thank God.

Neither the ability nor the promise to reproduce are prerequisites for marriage.

Heterosexuals engage in all kinds of perversions.

And gay people can reproduce. More than 6 million Americans have a gay parent [1].

[1] http://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu...
Debate Round No. 1
cfaith

Con

cfaith forfeited this round.
Danielle

Pro

I've already negated my opponent's entire case.

There are many known health and social benefits to romantic relationships, specifically marriage [1]. People with a predisposition to homosexuality would therefore benefit from engaging in same sex unions.

[1] http://www.nytimes.com...
Debate Round No. 2
cfaith

Con

cfaith forfeited this round.
Danielle

Pro

To nobody's surprise, my opponent has forfeited this debate. Please vote Pro.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by TheWorldIsComplicated 1 year ago
TheWorldIsComplicated
@FollowerofChrist How do you know that it is a choice? You can't say that it is a choice, personality is determined at birth. I guess I'll see you in Hell for judging too. I'd rather go to hell than to Heaven with a God that doesn't except everyone. Where do you pull out all these lies? Sexual perversions, choice, etc. The Bible never says any of that.
Posted by Heirio 1 year ago
Heirio
"Yes they all Choose to be gay"

Nope. Homosexuality is not a choice. Please tell me how one can choose to become attracted to someone else.

Moreover, the Bible is horseshit, so any claims based off of the Bible are null and void.
Posted by FollowerofChrist1955 1 year ago
FollowerofChrist1955
TheWorldIsComplicated;
Being gay is sexual perversion, with the same punishment assigned to it as pedophiles, bestiality, sexual promiscuity. And Yes they all Choose to be gay, because they failed to exercise self control. Sorry not condemning these are not my words their Gods:

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God"s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

and yes you too are condemned because you support such acts, so you too will have your part in Hell at death then the lake of Fire at the end. It doesn't have to be that way, God can forgive you if you ask.

Romans chapter 10 does say in verses 9 If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.
Posted by TheWorldIsComplicated 1 year ago
TheWorldIsComplicated
@FollowerofChrist1955 It is quite ignorant to say that being gay is a sexual perversion. Being gay isn't unusual anymore because people can come out and are happy with themselves. You really think someone would choose to be gay? No, they wouldn't because they have to deal with some many hard things that are caused by provincial people like you. I guess by your logic you're going to hell for judging? God doesn't make mistakes, he didn't write the Bible, men did which obviously means that the bible has changed. God loves everyone, and clearly you aren't loving thy neighbor as thy self. I wouldn't worship a God that hates someone.
Posted by FollowerofChrist1955 1 year ago
FollowerofChrist1955
The problem is neither that they can nor can't reproduce. The problem is that society is teaching that sexual perversion is normal,when it is not. That they pass laws to protect perversions and force acceptance is also at odds. All have the right to sin should they choose, some things are more harmful than others but all sin is punishable. It is this that is at odds. The sinful claim God is evil for holding them accountable for their sinfulness. Most believe that they should be allowed to do whatever they want without punishment, within reason of course. Unfortunately they are not God and God requires accountability. So if your unrepentant sinner, okay, but it is your choice to go to hell for your lack of self control, that is not Gods fault.
Posted by nishantjain1 1 year ago
nishantjain1
Danielle, the statement that homosexuals can reproduce is biologically incorrect.

Yes, they can reproduce with someone of the opposite gender. But the assertion that they can reproduce naturally, as I'm sure you know is impossible.

What's more, you stated that the ability to reproduce should not be a requirement for legal marriage. Well, by this logic should a person be officially able to marry a door? Eventual reproduction should be an obligation to most couples. I'm not against gay marriage, just to let you know.
Posted by TheWorldIsComplicated 1 year ago
TheWorldIsComplicated
Heterosexual couples have way more sexual perversions. Why can't you just let homosexual couples live their lives and be treated equality with the same rights? The Bible is a great teaching tool, but the world was so different when they wrote it. The government doesn't make laws based on the bible. Church and State separate!
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