The Instigator
RationalMadman
Con (against)
Winning
6 Points
The Contender
SarcasticIndeed
Pro (for)
Losing
1 Points

SarcasticIndeed will solve the stated RationalMadman riddle.

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RationalMadman
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/16/2012 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (5)
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RationalMadman

Con

I warn you this is not to be found on google. Google fails to know my deepest thoughts.

You are a part of me. I am all that you see. I am all that you know, all that you'll ever be.

Nice poetic riddle.
SarcasticIndeed

Pro

Universe? Riddle? I dunno.... And I have really no time for now to think about it.
Debate Round No. 1
RationalMadman

Con

Answer = Subjective reality:

The part you play is the audience (it's not actually you that is the creator in an conscious sense),
It is all that you see.
It is all that you know.
All that you'll ever be (according to you, the reader of the riddle).
SarcasticIndeed

Pro

But the Universe is the subjective reality I have. I'm the audience of it, it's all I see, it's all I know and all that I'll ever be a part of. A meh riddle.
Debate Round No. 2
RationalMadman

Con

THe universe is objective, it is not all you know (you know of fantasy in your dreams that is outside of the realms of the universe) you are not the audience, you are an actor in the play, so to say (okay so you are a part of it) but you addtionally are not ever going to BE the universe.
SarcasticIndeed

Pro

Well, I don't know if you can prove whether or not the universe is objective. The universe is my perception, and other people are also just percieved by me. I cannot neccessarily know that they must be sentient (solipsism), so I couldn't essentially prove that the universe is something ojective. you could say it is objective within by subjective perception, but that means little. Also,where dreams occur is not "outside the universe", or at least I believe so. They are just a set of images, feelings and sounds we percieve in our sleep (provoked by my brain). And really, my subjective reality wouldn't be me. It will be something created by me, but not really "me". Just like the universe, which is created by my perception of it (at least the universe I see).
Debate Round No. 3
RationalMadman

Con

But 'all that you'll ever be' definitely could not apply to the universe as a whole.
SarcasticIndeed

Pro

Just like I'm only a part of my subjective reality, I'm a part of the universe. They are the same, really.
Debate Round No. 4
RationalMadman

Con

no, you are a part of both but far more dignificantly in your subjective reality, you are the puppeteer and the audience most consciously.
SarcasticIndeed

Pro

Not really. What I say by Universe is really all there is, and all there is is only what I could have percieved through my life. So the universe is really my subjective reality.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by RationalMadman 4 years ago
RationalMadman
to troll
Posted by SarcasticIndeed 4 years ago
SarcasticIndeed
Okay, why 5 rounds?
Posted by RationalMadman 4 years ago
RationalMadman
it's actually not universe.
Posted by SarcasticIndeed 4 years ago
SarcasticIndeed
Am I a genius or is it kinda obvious "Universe" fits the answer? Also, why 5 rounds?
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Vote Placed by AlwaysMoreThanYou 4 years ago
AlwaysMoreThanYou
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Reasons for voting decision: Bizarre riddle. However, I must take Con's word for it that the Pro didn't get it right.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro never solved teh riddley.
Vote Placed by Kinesis 4 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: I have no idea who won, but Con capitalised a letter that ought not to have been capitalised so I'm going to use that as an excuse to vote for Pro.